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08/05/2005 04:36:18 PM · #1
I have PSP 7 and I want to be able to dodge and burn. I can use what they call the smudge tool, but it does not have options (as far as I can tell) to select highlights, midtones, or shadows. From what I have read you should Burn the shadows and Dodge the highlights. When I use this tool it dodges or burns the whole range and so it doesn't look very good at all. Any PSP users that can help me would be appreciated.

Thanks

edit: ANOTHER QUESTION.

Does anybody use GIMP. Does it work as well as Paint Shop Pro? How does it rate compared to Photoshop?

Message edited by author 2005-08-05 16:59:02.
08/05/2005 04:40:09 PM · #2
Click the little triangle underneath the smudge tool icon and change to either dodge or burn. Then you can adjust for flow, range, and brush size.

EDIT: I think I mean the sponge tool...on mine, I think Sponge, Dodge and Burn are all on the same button location.

Message edited by author 2005-08-05 16:41:32.
08/05/2005 04:41:30 PM · #3
In CS, dodge and burn isn't under the smudge tool, it's to the right. I think it's the same for PS 7. Up at the top, then, is a drop down menu where you can choose highlights, shadows or midtones.
08/05/2005 04:42:18 PM · #4
you want to watch the % of dodge/burn, as well as making sure your brush has a nice soft edge. I'd recommend 20% as a good starting point.

just re-read your question, PSP 7? Paint Shop Pro? not sure what your dodge and burn options are in PSP.

Message edited by author 2005-08-05 16:48:10.
08/05/2005 04:46:21 PM · #5
Another way of dodge and burn is go to your layers pallet and click the round circle at the bottom and choose new layer. The change the mode to overlay which will give you a check box (check it) to add 50% gray.

Then you use the to color canvas box on the side one black, one white. To dodge have the white on top then click the brush tool and make it 30% occupancy. Then when you want to burn just press the "X" button on your keyboard to switch to black.
08/05/2005 04:47:01 PM · #6
Jeremy's not using Photoshop ... : (
08/05/2005 04:48:01 PM · #7
Sorry, sorry...I keep forgetting that PSP and PS are different animals. Thanks, General, for the keen eye.
08/05/2005 04:48:06 PM · #8
mk is not reading... :(
08/05/2005 04:49:50 PM · #9
OOppps! sorry
08/05/2005 04:50:45 PM · #10
Thanks guys. I appreciate all the help. But yes I am using Paint Shop Pro. I want to upgrade, but need the cash flow. Wish Photoshop CS II was not so expensive, but again, I guess you get what you pay for!!!
08/05/2005 11:16:00 PM · #11
try google for psp7 dodge burn or something similar. Or maybe the help file??

I use psp8, and it has both dodge and burn tools (select hilights, mids, shadows, etc..), or you can use the airbrush set to dodge or burn mode. I usually start off with about 3-5% opacity.

If psp7 doesn't have these do the layer blend modes include a dodge and burn mode? It wouldn't have nearly the control, but you could do a dodge layer and a burn layer, and adjust the opacity to your liking, and erase the parts you don't want affected by each layer (or use a mask do accomplish the same thing).

Haven't used the Gimp but once on an older version.

08/06/2005 04:38:14 AM · #12
I have PSP9 installed an in the tool options pallet (above the image when the tool is selected) it includes a limit dropdown box that allows highlights/midtones/shadows to be selected -- don't know if it is there in PSP7 or not. If not, changing the blending range of a duplicate layer accomplishes the same thing but with more precision.

Blend Range in PSP9


BTW: You mentioned that you had heard to 'burn the shadows and dodge the highlights. Keep in mind that burn darkens and dodge lightens, so anytime you need to lighten or darken a specific area the d/b tools are appropriate. For instance a slight bright glare in a portrait can be smoothed down easily with a bit of burning, and shadow details brought out with a bit of dodging. It's not just for making the shadows darker and the highlights brighter.

David
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