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07/11/2005 12:45:41 PM · #1 |
I noticed in the Macro challenge there is a picture of currency that was disqualified for "Literal representations of existing artworks, including your own, are not permitted. Please review the challenge submission rules". This isn't the first time I have seen money used in a challenge. I am curious, and only that, as to what's the difference here.
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07/11/2005 12:48:50 PM · #2 |
I was wondering that myself. Also, if artwork is not allowed, how come so many pics of statues and drawings are allowed? They are artwork. And even in the macro challenge there was another shot of a close up of a bill that didn't get dq'ed.
Message edited by author 2005-07-11 12:50:06. |
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07/11/2005 12:52:22 PM · #3 |
Statues (and the like), are three dimensional.. and thus, the reasoning goes, photographing them isn't "Literal representation", as you can move around them and turn them into your own photographs (or something like that, I'm not the best explainer). I think this also applies to coins, as most coins I see stay in challenges.
Paper currency, and drawings are usually DQd unless another three dimensional physical element is included (such as a hand holding a pencil, or a woody (not *that* kind!), or whatever.
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07/11/2005 12:54:20 PM · #4 |
| Ok, I can accept that. But then how does Dead President - currently in 127th place in macro, not get dq'd? |
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07/11/2005 12:55:57 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Alienyst:
Ok, I can accept that. But then how does Dead President - currently in 127th place in macro, not get dq'd? |
Nobody requested a DQ on it most likely, and it got missed. That's my guess. That happens. You can always contact the SC or Site Admins for clarification if you really need to.
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07/11/2005 12:57:13 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Alienyst:
Ok, I can accept that. But then how does Dead President - currently in 127th place in macro, not get dq'd? |
Photos are only validated if they score in the top five or they receive a validation request. Probably no one requested validation.
Edit: Got to type faster than Artyste!
Message edited by author 2005-07-11 12:58:30. |
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07/11/2005 12:58:39 PM · #7 |
Now slow down boys, I'm not looking to start a "lets get them DQ'ed" thread here.
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07/11/2005 01:00:13 PM · #8 |
mine was one that got dq'd but if you read the comment below the photo you'll see that it was entered as a joke.
Message edited by author 2005-07-11 13:04:35.
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07/11/2005 01:01:44 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by jrtodd:
Now slow down boys, I'm not looking to start a "lets get them DQ'ed" thread here. |
lol. sorry, that wasn't my intention. I didn't say "contact them to get it DQ'd", I just said for clarification. It could have been validated for all I know for some reason
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07/11/2005 01:01:59 PM · #10 |
| Dead President did receive a request for DQ but was approved by majority vote. The difference is the DOF - there is artistic decision in the Dead President shot and it's obvious that it's more than a scan of a bill, whereas with some of the other shots, it is not. |
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07/11/2005 01:04:20 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by mk:
Dead President did receive a request for DQ but was approved by majority vote. The difference is the DOF - there is artistic decision in the Dead President shot and it's obvious that it's more than a scan of a bill, whereas with some of the other shots, it is not. |
Cool, I thought that might be the case, but didn't want to speculate. Thanks for the clarification.
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07/11/2005 01:06:33 PM · #12 |
I was just going to start a topic on this. I noticed the pixel photo in the DQ'ed photos of the macro challenge and think that in that picture it's obviously about the pixels and not about the folder and mouse pointer. And it's not exactly artwork that is depicted.
The money is more obvious, but I also agree that money is such an everyday object that you should be able to use it as a subject even if it has 'art' on it. Why then are coin macros allowed (at least I think I saw one).
And I think Alienyst has a good point about the statues. But when you photograph a drawing, and only the drawing, or another photo for that matter, then it should be DQ'ed because there is no other intention in the subject than that one subject.
I'm having difficulty to express myself clearly today, I think it's the weather... but I hope my comment is constructive ;-) |
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07/11/2005 01:14:06 PM · #13 |
The artwork rule is a difficult one and cause for many long discussions within the SC. Basically, this is why I base my own vote: is there anything at all in the photo that compels me to vote for something besides the actual ojbect? Does it look like the photographer took something and slid it through their scanner or are composition, lighting, dof, etc., factors in the photo? In general, it's pretty impossible to take a photo of a three-dimensional object and not have some of these things factor in. That's why statues are rarely disqualified.
It doesn't really make a difference if something has "art" on it. It's about whether or not the photographer did anything at all to portray that art in a way that is not exactly the same as the actual object. Dead President is a good example of that. Pixel Perfect - not so much.
I'm not sure if this is making any more sense. :) |
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07/11/2005 01:20:04 PM · #14 |
| Thanks, makes sense to me... interesting topic, this, but probably been discussed before? |
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