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06/30/2005 07:36:36 PM · #1 |
My computer (not lamptop) just goes down after a few minutes...
If i start doing things on it it shuts down but continues turned on, but the monitor just goes of like i didn't had the monitor plugged to the computer...
This started happening when i first tried to connect my cf card to the onboard card reader...
The computer slows down if i don't have the cf card connected to the card reader.
Please help.
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06/30/2005 07:45:50 PM · #2 |
It's really probably coincidence that the monitor started doing that
when you plugged in the flash card. They just aren't realated in any
way. It really kinda sounds like your monitor may be reaching the end of it's life.
Not sure what's going on with the slow down. If you unplug the reader
after you remove the card does it speed back up to normal?
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06/30/2005 07:47:28 PM · #3 |
Could be the video card. You might want to check that out too.
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06/30/2005 07:51:41 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by theskitch6: Could be the video card. You might want to check that out too. |
good point! do you just loose the image or does the monitor actually
turn off? |
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06/30/2005 08:26:31 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by superdave_909: Originally posted by theskitch6: Could be the video card. You might want to check that out too. |
good point! do you just loose the image or does the monitor actually
turn off? |
It seems like the computer goes to suspended mode...
the monitor light blinks and the computer keeps on running, like the hard drive continues to read always...
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06/30/2005 08:30:00 PM · #6 |
The video card and the card reader may be using the same IRQ, causing a conflict.
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06/30/2005 08:41:39 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by northrop3: The video card and the card reader may be using the same IRQ, causing a conflict. |
That is what i suspect that the card reader is make some kind of conflict...
How can i try and correct this?
I have tried desabling the card reader but i haven't done it with success.
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06/30/2005 08:43:52 PM · #8 |
My card has to be updated all the time. That's more for gaming...but hey worth a shot. |
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06/30/2005 08:47:51 PM · #9 |
I run a PC repair shop. The symptoms you describe are very common and in 9 times out of 10 the fault is caused by the CPU fan or power supply fan failing. This causes overheating especially if you have an AMD CPU, and the boards are designed to shut down if they get too hot.
Remove the side cover and check if the fan on the CPU is turning and also the fan on the power supply, viable from power cord socket in most cases.
Hope this helps
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06/30/2005 08:51:01 PM · #10 |
yes mine is amd cpu...
I have to check that out...
At the beging when the computer reads the bios if a compact flash is inserted it detects the cf card as a hd drive and quickly it gos in to windows if there is no cf card it will stay likt 2 minutes on the bios and finally runs to windows very slowly...
I guess this is really a card reader problem.
Just some thing to fill in the problem.
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06/30/2005 09:04:59 PM · #11 |
This is what it says in the bios
Auto-detecting USB mass storage Device..
Device #01.
And it stayes there reading for sometime...
It seems it's getting better i upgraded the card reader drivers...
I have been playing a game to see if it doesn't go down, but i'll keep you guys updated if it goes down again...
Oh and if i want to start the computer again i have to disconnect it from the wire and let it like that for a little bit then connect it again and turn it on...
If anyone can explain me what to try and do...
I have been trying what people have been saying here...
Thanks to everyone and thanks for the ones who well try and help..
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06/30/2005 09:11:13 PM · #12 |
Try digging through your BIOS settings and see if you can find an option that enables/disabled detection of USB drives at the boot time. This is only important if you boot off of the USB drive, but if you're not, then Windows is supposed to pick up USB devices whether or not BIOS picked them up.
ALso check your boot sequence and verify that C: drive is the first drive in your boot sequence. If youever need to reinstall OS you'll have to change that to boot from CD rom first, but in the meantime this should speed up your boot process considerably.
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06/30/2005 09:31:27 PM · #13 |
done that now the computer is faster now the next step is to see if it doesn't shuts down... |
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06/30/2005 09:38:01 PM · #14 |
the problem continues..
The computer just goes down... I have to open it up, but the fans seem to be working...
I put my hand on the end of the fan and i can fell the air flowing.
Any more thoughts?
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06/30/2005 09:39:15 PM · #15 |
Can you provide more details? Exactly what is happening when it goes down? Does it perform a shutdown? Does it just die? Does the fan, etc. keep running? |
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06/30/2005 09:46:43 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by northrop3: Can you provide more details? Exactly what is happening when it goes down? Does it perform a shutdown? Does it just die? Does the fan, etc. keep running? |
It just dies... The computer goes like to a suspension mode... but continues reading the hard drive continuoesly...
The fan keeps on running.
The monitor goes down and the light on the monitor blinks..
The only way to turn it back on is to turn it off from the wire and waiting some minutes to turn it back on then it stays on for like 2 minutes or so and goes back down...
IT doesn't even say anything just goes down...
Hope this helps.
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06/30/2005 09:49:29 PM · #17 |
Check your event viewer and post here any events that have happened before the machine dies... it may show device driver failures that caused the crash. You may also examine system log.
Check your option for BSOD - does your system automatically restarts (setup that way) or what kind of settings do you have for system failure. (you can find these at system properties, under advanced)
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06/30/2005 09:53:32 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by srdanz: Check your event viewer and post here any events that have happened before the machine dies... it may show device driver failures that caused the crash. You may also examine system log.
Check your option for BSOD - does your system automatically restarts (setup that way) or what kind of settings do you have for system failure. (you can find these at system properties, under advanced) |
Nope this doesn't complicate things but how do i check my system log?
I am asking for help since i really think this is something that can be resolved without going to the local shop to get it done...
Sorry if i am being a pain in the a**...
I'll check the system properties.
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06/30/2005 09:58:01 PM · #19 |
It is sounding more and more like a heat problem - especially the fact that it has to sit for a few minutes before you can power it back up when it occurs.
Your pc should have at least 2 fans. One will be built into the power supply. I think that is the one you mentioned earlier that you can feel the wind from when you put your hand to the pc. You will also have one connected over the cpu in some form or fashion. From what you are describing, it sounds like it may be bad. Open up the case and see if it is running. If not, do not use the pc until you can replace it. The heat can cause significant damage.
Many PC's also have a case fan. Look for that and, if you have one, see if it is running.
Once you have the case open, if the cpu fan is working, you can try running the pc with the case open (even better, if you have a standard house fan, set it up to blow across the pc with the case open ) and see if the problem goes away or the time between lockups increase. If it does, then it certainly is a heat problem.
The only thing about this that bothers me is the fact that you say the disk light stays on as if it is still working. That, coupled with the graphic card going out (and thus the dormant monitor) could still point to some sort of conflict. My money though, would be on heat. |
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06/30/2005 09:59:23 PM · #20 |
It is set to restart if the system fails.
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06/30/2005 10:00:33 PM · #21 |
srdanz's suggestion is good - switch that to not restart - you may see an error message that is getting lost when it tries to reboot. |
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06/30/2005 10:01:56 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by northrop3: srdanz's suggestion is good - switch that to not restart - you may see an error message that is getting lost when it tries to reboot. |
Ok done it now i have to wait for it to do his silly number. :)
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06/30/2005 10:02:13 PM · #23 |
Need to do some fault isolation. Do you know enough about computers to swap out hardware? Or have a friend willing to help? If so, try these steps:
1. Reboot your computer in safe mode and see if the problem persists. If it does, it's probably hardware related. If not, it's probably software/driver related.
2. If hardware related, borrow friend's monitor and see if the problem happens with the new monitor. If it keeps happening, then it's not the monitor, it's probably the video card.
3. Borrow friends video card and do the same thing. If it stops happening, then it was the video card. If it keeps happening, then it's most likely related to the mother board/cpu/fans/power supply. The fix for that is beyond the scope of these 3 steps. |
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06/30/2005 10:13:06 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by northrop3: It is sounding more and more like a heat problem - especially the fact that it has to sit for a few minutes before you can power it back up when it occurs.
Your pc should have at least 2 fans. One will be built into the power supply. I think that is the one you mentioned earlier that you can feel the wind from when you put your hand to the pc. You will also have one connected over the cpu in some form or fashion. From what you are describing, it sounds like it may be bad. Open up the case and see if it is running. If not, do not use the pc until you can replace it. The heat can cause significant damage.
Many PC's also have a case fan. Look for that and, if you have one, see if it is running.
Once you have the case open, if the cpu fan is working, you can try running the pc with the case open (even better, if you have a standard house fan, set it up to blow across the pc with the case open ) and see if the problem goes away or the time between lockups increase. If it does, then it certainly is a heat problem.
The only thing about this that bothers me is the fact that you say the disk light stays on as if it is still working. That, coupled with the graphic card going out (and thus the dormant monitor) could still point to some sort of conflict. My money though, would be on heat. |
I'd lean toward heat as well... funny as it sounds to test for heat related issues on peeps pc's I pop the side of and take a 9 inch (Toronado) fan and have it blowing inside... Run the machine to see if it fails... If I can't duplicate the problem then heat is more than likely to be an issue...
You don't have a Shuttle PC do you? I built a machine (Shuttle cube size PC) for my pop-in-law a couple of years back and put one of those cheap (ebay) USB card readers in it and it did the same thing...either had to have a CF in it or unplug it to get it to boot.
Anyways if you can tell us the mobo there is a ton of utilities we could get to measure heat of the cpu, fan speeds etc... but if your motherboard manufacture has one it is better to go that route.
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06/30/2005 10:19:44 PM · #25 |
Hmmm what is a shuttle pc? sorry but i don't now all that language in english...
What about mobo? sorry guys...
About the hardware stuff that is not a bad ideia... have to get my hands to work on that...
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