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 06/29/2005 08:09:18 PM · #26
Originally posted by GeneralE:
What's going on is that a lot of perfectly fine photos are getting votes of 3/4/5 when the probably deserve votes of 5/6/7.


Their seems to be an influx of negative voting where people will not try and see what a shot offers but just want that initial impact.
 06/29/2005 08:16:40 PM · #27
Hey "chafer" why don't you put your creative writing to work and go comment on a few photos...the 7 comments you put in this thread out-number the total comments you've given on other people's photos! (Though you have received 330.)

How's that for negative?
=p
 06/29/2005 08:23:01 PM · #28
Originally posted by bear_music:
Let's put the concept of "closed minds" in perspective here. I have a friend who insists she HATES olives. I have no idea what sort of olives she's been fed, to hate them so, but I can't conceive of anyone hating all olives, it's ridiculous. She's coming to visit later this summer. I was telling her I'd ontroduce her to olives that she's never even imagined. She says she won't eat them; she has no interest in olives.

Is she closed minded? Or am I being ridiculous in trying to force olives on her?

Robt.


I don't like olives hmmm... I do try them every now and then just to make sure though. I think you should just accept her olive hatingness :)
 06/29/2005 08:23:22 PM · #29
I have not tried the garlic ones, but I will, thanks (see how open minded I am!).
 06/29/2005 08:25:28 PM · #30
chafer, just remember, you don't have to be an artist to be a photogragher, you just have to have a camera.
 06/29/2005 08:26:14 PM · #31
chafer, just remember, you don't have to be an artist to be a photogragher, you just have to have a camera.
 06/29/2005 08:27:31 PM · #32
Originally posted by chafer:
I associate the low scores with close-mindedness.


Based on this:
Challenges Entered: 30
Votes Cast: 2444
Avg Vote Cast: 4.9349
Votes Received: 7517
Avg Vote Received: 5.2665
# Comments:Made: 6
# Helpful: 4
# Received: 330

you yourself are closed-minded. An average vote cast of 4.9 says you think more than not either don't meet the challenge or are not good. You don't comment - only 6 in 30 challenges. Not much to be starting a thread like this over and hardly enough to be criticizing anyone elses comments - good, bad or indifferent. What are you really angry at? lack of a ribbon? Not doing better? Why make an excuse? Tell the truth. Your argument doesn't hold water against your record.
 06/29/2005 08:27:55 PM · #33
sorry about the double post, was just trying to be artistic, lol
 06/29/2005 08:28:29 PM · #34

I totally agree that this site has close minded folks as well as open minded ones, but maybe it's this diversity that makes DPC so awesome. Let's face it, our world contains all sorts of people who don't necessarily think like ourselves. But it's important that we coexist with EVERYBODY. Anyone who criticize others for not agreeing with him/her should also be deemed closed minded.
Personally I think the challenges are nothing more than methods to get people to be creative and competitive, and don't always have to be followed to the teeth. Should voters make a beautiful picture suffer for technicalities? I think not; but it doesn't bother me when my own submissions bomb for wandering slightly outside the title of that challenge. I put my efforts into making art, and I respect ALL the other artists with whom I share this site.



Message edited by author 2005-06-29 20:30:19.
 06/29/2005 08:29:24 PM · #35
Originally posted by rjpat:
sorry about the double post, was just trying to be artistic, lol


Phew! I thought you were going to say it three times....that would have made it true. =)
 06/29/2005 08:31:34 PM · #36
Originally posted by stormy:
I don't like olives hmmm... I do try them every now and then just to make sure though. :)


I think this will be my new mantra going forward:
I don't like ____________but I will try them now and again just to make sure.

Love it! Thank you stormy - you made me smile!

d
 06/29/2005 08:32:10 PM · #37
Hey...I agree with the original poster. People are close-minded. I don't think I've submitted to a challenge in a while probably a couple months, but it feels like longer -- maybe one or two here and there.

I don't see the point. If my photos sell as prints in the real-world, then I don't know why I would want to have it voted on and get a 4 because I didn't follow the rule of thirds or, GOD FORBID a car in the background on a low DOF shot is (yes, you guess it...) out of focus -- that's another rant all-together though.

Anyway...we all know what wins here anyway...fake skies (read heavily modified through dodging and burning), leaves with rain-drops, and naked girls.

Like I was saying...something took a turn for the worse somewhere.

"This doesn't meet the challenge because the title clearly says 'naturally framed' and your entry is framed by a man-made structure"

"You can't include more than one because the title says 'a' "

blah blah blah ... quit your whining.

and my all-time favorite -- I vote all photos a 4 then go back through them slowly. Sometimes I run out of time, so there's photos that are still at 4, but should get a 9 getting beat by something I had time to go back through and gave it a 7.

HOLY CRAP!!! Look at the damned picture, vote from 1-10, and move on. If it wow's you, there's no reason not to give it at least a 8. Then at the end, go back through and decide which of your 8's is a 9 or a 10.

Anyway...sorry for rambling.
 06/29/2005 08:32:43 PM · #38
Originally posted by peterish:
But it's important that we coexist with EVERYBODY. Anyone who criticize others for not agreeing with him/her should also be deemed closed minded.


These are the two most contradictory sentences I've seen juxtaposed today! (Maybe even this week!)

I think you've got the right spirit, though. We shouldn't be close-minded! We should be judgmental!
 06/29/2005 08:38:26 PM · #39
Originally posted by Alienyst:
Originally posted by chafer:
I associate the low scores with close-mindedness.


Based on this:
Challenges Entered: 30
Votes Cast: 2444
Avg Vote Cast: 4.9349
Votes Received: 7517
Avg Vote Received: 5.2665
# Comments:Made: 6
# Helpful: 4
# Received: 330

you yourself are closed-minded. An average vote cast of 4.9 says you think more than not either don't meet the challenge or are not good. You don't comment - only 6 in 30 challenges. Not much to be starting a thread like this over and hardly enough to be criticizing anyone elses comments - good, bad or indifferent. What are you really angry at? lack of a ribbon? Not doing better? Why make an excuse? Tell the truth. Your argument doesn't hold water against your record.


my average vote is low as well, but i can tell you i very rarely give 3's or 4's... so i know from personal experinece he may not ALWAYS vote low, and regarding commenting, some of us are actually on three or more photography sites, not just this one, and to be able to sit here ALL day and comment would be great, but unfortunately this is not always possible....
i am a little surprised where this thread has gone, so many angry people, i thought it started off as a disscussion between some 'same minded' people who thought the same thing as chafer, looks like some people got on the defensive side... i'm also not as addicted as a lot of you are to the update button, and really don't get upset if i only get in the 4's, but what is upsetting is how some people word their comments, they can really come across very negative...
 06/29/2005 08:47:49 PM · #40

Originally posted by KaDi:
Originally posted by peterish:
But it's important that we coexist with EVERYBODY. Anyone who criticize others for not agreeing with him/her should also be deemed closed minded.


These are the two most contradictory sentences I've seen juxtaposed today! (Maybe even this week!)

I think you've got the right spirit, though. We shouldn't be close-minded! We should be judgmental!


Contradictory sentences juxtaposed? Nice job yanking my lines out of context to be JUXTAPOSED. Oh gee whiz, I was so dumb to type that whole paragraph of explanation, I should've known someone would find something to intentionally juxtapose.
Wheww I've never used the word juxtapose so many times in one breath.



Message edited by author 2005-06-29 20:50:54.
 06/29/2005 08:53:02 PM · #41
Geez, KaDi is really on a rampage. The truth hurts, doesn't it? Any ways, my initial comments were pretty innocent. I was just making observations based on my own experience. It's funny how everybody takes things so personally. I'm glad there are a few people out there that agree with what I have to say. These threads really bring out the best and worst in people.
 06/29/2005 08:53:22 PM · #42
close-mind·ed (klsmndd, klz-) or closed-mind·ed (klzd-)
adj.
Intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others; stubbornly unreceptive to new ideas.

Disagreeing with a low score = Intolerant to the opinion of someone else = closed minded

Calling those that don't agree with you closed mined = Closed minded because your opinion is the only right opinion

Scoring an image low = Someone's allowable opinion on a given photograph

Negative comment = Being nice enough to explain your opinion on a photograph you do not like

Your opinion does not make you closed minded nor does sharing your opinion make you closed minded. How you react to differing opinions determines if you are closed minded.

PS what brand olives do you like? I like Armstong but would like to try others (amazing how open minded I am...)

06/29/2005 08:55:13 PM · #43
Originally posted by chafer:
I'm glad there are a few people out there that agree with what I have to say.


And those that disagree with you are...
 06/29/2005 08:55:25 PM · #44
louddog...you epitomize my initial comment :-)
 06/29/2005 08:56:47 PM · #45

Originally posted by louddog:
Originally posted by chafer:
I'm glad there are a few people out there that agree with what I have to say.


And those that disagree with you are...


lol guys, we can do this all night. Why don't we all just let this go. (just trying to end the madness).

06/29/2005 08:57:19 PM · #46
Originally posted by chafer:
louddog...you epitomize my initial comment :-)


please explain?
 06/29/2005 08:57:34 PM · #47
Sounds good to me. I didn't think it would get this carried away. Adios!
 06/29/2005 08:59:01 PM · #48
Originally posted by louddog:

PS what brand olives do you like? I like Armstong but would like to try others (amazing how open minded I am...)


Never tried Armstrong I don't think. But if I did and I didn't like them, I'd try them again, just to be sure. And maybe again after that. :)

d, who is getting a craving for olives...
 06/29/2005 08:59:57 PM · #49
RE: Trying olives and other things....
I always thought cherries were horrible. Ya know those red sweetened ones that come in a packet. Yuk! Then I tried real cherries, fresh in a black forest gateau, with fresh cream ...........mmmmmmm. I like cherries! :D

06/29/2005 09:01:04 PM · #50
Anybody tried those Blue Cheese stuffed olives?
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