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06/22/2005 12:28:27 AM · #1 |
I normally dont do this, but these two were way underrated.
Sub-5? You've got to be kidding me.
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06/22/2005 12:31:16 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by vfwlkr:
Sub-5? You've got to be kidding me.
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The scoring on this one was all over the map because it is just too dark and only some people whose brightness was higher than others could see it. I could see it ok on my laptop, but black as night on my CRT monitor.
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06/22/2005 12:31:38 AM · #3 |
I definately agree on the first one...I'm betting it got hammered because of all the uncalibrated monitors around here.
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06/22/2005 12:33:31 AM · #4 |
i'm dissapointed with my own placement - purely because i think i met the challenge really well and was beaten by photos that i think came shy of metting the challenge - but i don't hardly think my metal submission meets the challenge nearly as well so maybe this is my week!
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06/22/2005 12:33:38 AM · #5 |
| I really liked the first one too. |
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06/22/2005 12:34:26 AM · #6 |
I also voted the dark one low... for not being able to see it.
I think it's not actually the problem of uncalibrated monitors, but the fact that dpc itself has a grey background. I could see the image no problem now that I took it outside and loaded it up with a black background (which I wish I did before).
Maybe if dpc used a solid black background for voting instead of the grey, we will be able to see more tones. |
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06/22/2005 12:34:42 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
i'm dissapointed with my own placement - purely because i think i met the challenge really well and was beaten by photos that i think came shy of metting the challenge - but i don't hardly think my metal submission meets the challenge nearly as well so maybe this is my week! |
Complaining about a 6+ score is the surest way to "He's just a whiner"-ville. hehehe.
I should know.. I arrived in that town early, and never left.
Message edited by author 2005-06-22 00:35:06.
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06/22/2005 12:37:11 AM · #8 |
watch out ya'll...im in a great mood and taking it out on fantasy & metal challenges..passing out 8-10 left and right..hope some of ya wo need the boost reap the rewards! ;o)
oops..wrong thread..see i told ya i was in a great mood..too bad darkness didnt get it in time
sorry for rubbing it in here...my fault
Message edited by author 2005-06-22 00:38:55.
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06/22/2005 12:37:57 AM · #9 |
Haha but i *AM* a whiner!!!
(actually i just wanted to beat slippy and i didnt *sulk*)
Originally posted by Artyste:
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
i'm dissapointed with my own placement - purely because i think i met the challenge really well and was beaten by photos that i think came shy of metting the challenge - but i don't hardly think my metal submission meets the challenge nearly as well so maybe this is my week! |
Complaining about a 6+ score is the surest way to "He's just a whiner"-ville. hehehe.
I should know.. I arrived in that town early, and never left. |
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06/22/2005 12:41:14 AM · #10 |
| Gave the first one an 8... but the second did not fare as well in my voting scale. |
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06/22/2005 12:41:37 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:
watch out ya'll...im in a great mood and taking it out on fantasy & metal challenges..passing out 8-10 left and right..hope some of ya wo need the boost reap the rewards! ;o) |
Interesting...
Message edited by author 2005-06-22 00:43:16.
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06/22/2005 01:22:18 AM · #12 |
I too am very disappointed with my score. Don't like to be a complainer, but I really do not believe this shot deserved the following scores:
1 8
2 18
3 25
here is the photo:
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06/22/2005 01:53:10 AM · #13 |
Well Linda, here is my take on the scores you received, and are only my opinons.
First of all, a 5.0 really isn't a bad score. This was a challenge of creativity, mood and "Heebie-Jeebies" in a way. Your picture is touching, and as a former Pug owner, hits a soft spot here. Here is where I believe it had problems:
The average voter spends only a couple seconds to look at it and cast a vote. Your image needed a few seconds longer to get a feeling for and perhaps understand. When a voter has to try and understand too much, they vote in the 4, 5 & 6 realm, as the bulk of the scores on yours reflect. Pet pictures seem to generally score a bit lower too, now adding a second strike in a way. That image means 100x more to you than anyone else here, and becomes self-explanitory in your world, but may not click in a voter's eyes. Perhaps a more powerful title may have helped convey that the dog wasn't just closing it's eyes, with something like "Blind at birth".
Technically, the focus is a little soft in my opinion for something with a minimal dof. Sharper features in the face may have also helped. Composition & framing is decent, with it not being a dead-center mug shot.
Remembering who is scoring these challenges is to understand what to produce if you only care about a high vote:
Eye candy and wow factor always seem to come out on top.
When the power goes off on your PC, you still have a touching print to look at,
worth far more than other people's opinions and lack of compassion.
:)
Edit=typos - onE of thees daZs I neeed to lern to sPell betr.
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06/22/2005 02:02:49 AM · #14 |
Brad - I can completely understand where you are coming from. I just do not think it deserved 1'2 or 2's at all! I can see where those who did not take time to really perceive what the image was showing them would give a 3.
You're right though - I still have a photo that is dear to me, and worth more than any DPC'er could appreciate.
Message edited by author 2005-06-22 02:03:11.
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06/22/2005 02:08:40 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
Brad - I can completely understand where you are coming from. I just do not think it deserved 1'2 or 2's at all! |
None of us ever do, and if you want to put it in perspective, go into any challenge, and look at the top ten placers. They almost ALWAYS have a bunch or 1's, 2's & 3's. A few really don't hurt the overall score as much as we get affected by them. I try and ignore them. |
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06/22/2005 03:14:34 AM · #16 |
I gave this one a ten and expected it to finish higher. |
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06/22/2005 03:29:05 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by mesmeraj:
i'm dissapointed with my own placement - purely because i think i met the challenge really well and was beaten by photos that i think came shy of metting the challenge - but i don't hardly think my metal submission meets the challenge nearly as well so maybe this is my week! |
Hey, yours was probably my second favorite image in the challenge. Definitely met the challenge 200%. Absolutely fabulous image. |
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06/22/2005 04:14:20 AM · #18 |
Any score is relative. I tend to reserve 1-3 for photos that are really aweful, and should not have been posted. But, given the high standard of photos here, some people might have to be pretty impressed to give a 5, giving generally lower scores. Others might sit with their mouse on the 2, and keep clicking until a photo jumps out at them. There's many different voters, and many ways to vote. Not everyone will ever agree on a photo.
Also remember that others will never value your photos as highly as you do. I find that a photo that makes me stop long enough to look at it will generally end up with a better score that I was originally intending. I have even found what I though was a bad photo, and stopped to comment, but in the time it takes to write the comment, the photo grows on me, or something new dawns, and I end up giving a good score.
Just play the averages, and try not to set your heart on one photo. :)
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06/22/2005 04:35:14 AM · #19 |
I am just curious...I never expect my photos to get a ribbon...I'm here to learn and try to get better...but I didn't expect to be in a foot-race for a brownie with this one...I think the image itself is sharp and well composed.
I received a handful of comments, with only a couple of them having anything useful on the negative side to say about the image.
I don't understand if people just completely didn't understand that darkness to me as a photographer means I need to use my flash (basic concept I know but maybe everyone was just looking to be scared by the pics in the challenge), of if my photo just sucked it up.
Anyways, as I said, I'm a middle of the road scorer on challenges, generally tickeled with a 5.0, but when i come in with a 3 average, I'd like a little more constructive criticism so I can improve next time.
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06/22/2005 02:31:00 PM · #20 |
This is a fantastic shot! Deserved better than 185th. |
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06/22/2005 02:32:53 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by keegbow:
I gave this one a ten and expected it to finish higher. |
i gave it a 10 also i loved it
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06/22/2005 02:36:09 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by buzzmom:
Originally posted by keegbow:
I gave this one a ten and expected it to finish higher. |
i gave it a 10 also i loved it |
I gave it an 8, I thought for sure I'd see it near the top in the finish. I'm sure that guy is a cannibal ! The lighting & model are really well done. I don't think there was an entry with lighting any better than this. The score on this one is very surprising. :-(
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06/22/2005 02:36:23 PM · #23 |
i dont think mine was underrated...but i wanted to high jack this thread to thank everyone who left their comments....i dont care what score i get anymore ...i just want to move people one way or another...i feel that i did this here...thanks again
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06/22/2005 02:43:27 PM · #24 |
These were my top picks for ribbons that, IMO, scored much lower than they should have:
 
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06/22/2005 02:48:10 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by kpriest:
Originally posted by vfwlkr:
Sub-5? You've got to be kidding me.
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The scoring on this one was all over the map because it is just too dark and only some people whose brightness was higher than others could see it. I could see it ok on my laptop, but black as night on my CRT monitor. |
I've calibrated both my monitors at work and home as best I can. I still can't get the last two darkness boxes to show much of a difference. So I think some of the issue might be not just people not calibrating monitors, but also not being able to fully calibrate their monitors.
Hmm, X-mas isn't toooooo far away. Maybe time for new monitor in 6 months.
Russ |
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