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06/14/2005 03:47:11 PM · #1 |
All of the model releases I have, have a place for a "witness" to sign.
99% of the time that I need a model release, there IS NO WITNESS! What can I do about this? Is a witness really needed? I mean, if someone puts their "Hancock" on something, isn't it just as valid?
Any insight appreciated!
Thanks, Linda |
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06/14/2005 03:57:10 PM · #2 |
Just take the witness line off or adjust the release to say something like
___________________
Witness (if present)
If the model signs the release its just a valid and just as arguable as if he/she had a witness. For that matter, since its a contract, you might want to have a witness of your own.
Kev
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06/14/2005 04:00:40 PM · #3 |
I've seen them on minor model releases. Seems like a good idea to have your own as well for both your protection and the parent/guardians comfort.
For adult model releases, I would simply take it off altogether. |
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06/14/2005 04:22:35 PM · #4 |
Oh, if I could only afford to hire an assistant! Then I'd have a built in witness.
OK, thanks for the input; I agree that with minors it might be a good idea, but for everything else, I just can't see why you would need a witness.
I appreciate the help! |
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06/14/2005 04:41:15 PM · #5 |
actually the witness is supposed to witness that the model signs of his/her own free will and is not under the influence of drug/alcohol at the moment of signature, and the witness signs also to verify that the model is 18+ ( or to witness that the signee is the guardian of the model) and the witness is supposed to know the MODEL not the photographer.
otherwise any photographer with an assistant could kidnap and drug a model, make it sign a release and then the assistant could witness that everything was done properly ;) |
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06/14/2005 04:52:54 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by DanSig:
otherwise any photographer with an assistant could kidnap and drug a model, make it sign a release and then the assistant could witness that everything was done properly ;) |
Can't you just drug the model and then drug a stranger to be a witness?
Sounds simple enough.
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06/14/2005 04:58:21 PM · #7 |
and I think that you need two witnesses... one for the model and one to protect the photographer from mischievous models and their witnesses. No, wait, add another witness that will witness that the two other witnesses were not forced to sign the release... and make that witness have a gov't clearance (something like a notary public) just in case someone questions your original witnesses...
Just have the model sign it and see what happens. Even drugged, they may like the image and not do anything about it.
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06/14/2005 04:59:11 PM · #8 |
Never mind!
Message edited by author 2005-06-14 17:00:13. |
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06/14/2005 05:12:53 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
Originally posted by DanSig:
otherwise any photographer with an assistant could kidnap and drug a model, make it sign a release and then the assistant could witness that everything was done properly ;) |
Can't you just drug the model and then drug a stranger to be a witness?
Sounds simple enough. |
HEY! Do you need a witness! Pick me, pick me! |
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06/14/2005 05:28:38 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by AllgoodPics:
Pick me, pick me! |
No, you've already been drugged. Let someone else have a chance to be the "drugged witness". We have to share the fun.
Kev
;)
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06/14/2005 05:38:54 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by srdanz:
and I think that you need two witnesses... one for the model and one to protect the photographer from mischievous models and their witnesses. No, wait, add another witness that will witness that the two other witnesses were not forced to sign the release... and make that witness have a gov't clearance (something like a notary public) just in case someone questions your original witnesses...
Just have the model sign it and see what happens. Even drugged, they may like the image and not do anything about it. |
You guys are too funny! And this,(quote above),is exactly the kind of thing that I envision the point it could be carried to. Why not just take a lawyer along on every shoot?
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06/14/2005 06:05:52 PM · #12 |
| Really the only reason you would need a model release is if you sell the photo for commercial reasons. Editorial photos do not require one. As for an assistant, I am sure if you call a local high school, and talk to someone there you may be able to find a student that would be very happy to assist on some jobs for the experience. |
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06/14/2005 06:23:45 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
Originally posted by DanSig:
otherwise any photographer with an assistant could kidnap and drug a model, make it sign a release and then the assistant could witness that everything was done properly ;) |
Can't you just drug the model and then drug a stranger to be a witness?
Sounds simple enough. |
i can't afford that many drugs........ |
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