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06/06/2005 05:17:12 AM · #1 |
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Message edited by author 2005-06-08 09:32:37.
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06/06/2005 05:18:25 AM · #2 |
| Er...I wouldn't go there if I were you:)) |
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06/06/2005 05:27:35 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by amber:
Er...I wouldn't go there if I were you:)) |
Yep. Let's not. I urge y'all to just vote :)
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06/06/2005 05:36:33 AM · #4 |
my entry is 100% natural framed
i think its an appealing shot too
but..
its hammered..i will be happy if it enters the 5's in the end
leaves me a bit puzzled again |
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06/06/2005 05:43:34 AM · #5 |
I dont know that this thread is really appropriate given the likelihood of swaying how others may vote.
Vote according to YOUR interpretation.
However, in an effort to swing the balance:
As far as I am concerned "naturally framed" does not mean "framed by nature". If it did the description would read "framed by nature", no?
In my opinion, it means that the object providing the framing is not a construct of the photographer - ie they haven't held an empty photo frame infront of the scene or had someone pose in a certain way to create a frame that isn't usually there - instead they have walked around their chosen location and noticed a scene which already incorporates an object which provides a frame for the rest of the scene - whether that object is organic or man-made is irrelevant to me.
And I'm not entered into this challenge, nor is my other half, so I'm not posting in order to sway votes for personal gain. This is honestly how I interpret it.
I would reiterate though that I don't think it's fair to open threads which effectively sway how other people may vote during the voting period. But since the thread was already in existence I felt it important to post the other viewpoint to balance it out.
Message edited by author 2005-06-06 05:44:03.
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06/06/2005 05:46:31 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Just a quick question? The challenge naturally framed surely means framed by nature! Why am I seeing alot of images, great as they are, that are not following the rule of the challenge? |
There is an ambiguity in the challenge description, as always (framed by nature v unforced framing). Accordingly, it is a bit difficult to say that the meaning you ascribe to it is the only interpretation "for sure". Understand that there are different ways of interpreting the challenge, but vote how you want (none of us can stop you!).
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06/06/2005 05:46:49 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Just a quick question? The challenge naturally framed surely means framed by nature! Why am I seeing alot of images, great as they are, that are not following the rule of the challenge? |
If you don't like it. Use your vote. Many will vote the same way without trying to persuade them here.
It would be nice to avoid another bitch session if possible.
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06/06/2005 05:49:05 AM · #8 |
sure, I suppose you guys are right. Let the majority decide.
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06/06/2005 05:50:02 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Just a quick question? The challenge naturally framed surely means framed by nature! Why am I seeing alot of images, great as they are, that are not following the rule of the challenge? |
Absolutely NOT. "Take a photograph where the subject is naturally framed in by its surroundings." I thinks its obvious that this does not imply "nature" necessarily being the frame. You could take a picture of ANYTHING, and as long as it is naturally framed by its surrounding ie. the bokeh in the background, a dust cloud, a tree branch, a telephone pull (whatever its surroundings may be), then it fits the challenge.
It is easy to take pictures in which the subjest is NOT framed naturally by its surroundings. Those images would be unfit for the challenge. Just so you know...I used "nature" to frame my subject because I figured a lot of people would misinterperate this challenge, so I wanted to be safe with the voters.
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06/06/2005 05:50:53 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Kavey:
I dont know that this thread is really appropriate given the likelihood of swaying how others may vote.
I would reiterate though that I don't think it's fair to open threads which effectively sway how other people may vote during the voting period. But since the thread was already in existence I felt it important to post the other viewpoint to balance it out. |
I like your sense of balance.
However, if I thought that I could swing the vote by posting here within the bounds of anonymity - I surely would!! I think that it is, unfortunately, impossible <<>>
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06/06/2005 05:53:45 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Just a quick question? The challenge naturally framed surely means framed by nature! Why am I seeing alot of images, great as they are, that are not following the rule of the challenge? |
i think its fully entitled to bring up this question..thats how i understood it as a question
it wont even changes voters opinion for a eeny weeny tiny bit
soo ..not a big deal at all imo
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06/06/2005 05:54:11 AM · #12 |
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LOL, Little Britain:)) |
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06/06/2005 05:59:52 AM · #13 |
I think anything that is not staged as a framed picture should meet the challenge. I didn't enter but I am voting. When I say staged I mean set up. If someone took a picture of a nice sunrise through there French doors, to me that is naturally framed. The doors were there, the sun was there and the photographer did not stage it. If someone put a rubber duck with grapes inside a shoe box, that's staged and not natural. lol
Message edited by author 2005-06-06 21:02:49.
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06/06/2005 06:02:57 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Just a quick question? The challenge naturally framed surely means framed by nature! Why am I seeing alot of images, great as they are, that are not following the rule of the challenge? |
Wow I thought the challenge was "Take a photograph where the subject is naturally framed in by its surroundings."
My take is that it's shows up naturally (not nature where is that word?) framed by it's surrondings.
I guess I don't see your interpretation on this challenge??? |
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06/06/2005 07:09:52 AM · #15 |
Legalbeagle
Sadly, it's been shown again and again how easily some can be swayed by what they read in the forums - again and again I see posts from people saying "In response to abc post I'm now going to do xyz which I wasn't doing before".
Often that's no bad thing - I learn constantly not only by experience but also by taking onboard the experiences and ideas of others - but sometimes, in my opinion, it's less desirable, such as in this case.
Descriptions for challenges are often ambiguous which means people interpret as they see fit but don't necessarily hold those interpretations strongly or confidently - not hard to sway them with threads like this.
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06/06/2005 07:37:10 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by alexsaberi:
Just a quick question? The challenge naturally framed surely means framed by nature! Why am I seeing alot of images, great as they are, that are not following the rule of the challenge? |
"naturally framed" does NOT mean framed by nature. "naturally framed" is an object in its natural environment that is framed by another object such as a window casing.
ie. the trim around a window looking in/out or it could also be something funny like looking in thru a window seeing a locked door and seeing the keys in the ignition. Framing not just subject to windows or door either but I was just mention a few examples.
No I did not enter this challenge. I found it to be uninteresting.
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06/06/2005 07:56:36 AM · #17 |
buzzmom wonders if D&L post these challenges and then sit back laughing their butts off as the natives get restless and begin to revolt!!!
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06/06/2005 08:04:03 AM · #18 |
This was beat up pretty well once already - why not go here?
"Naturally Framed" question
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06/06/2005 08:08:01 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Kavey:
As far as I am concerned "naturally framed" does not mean "framed by nature". If it did the description would read "framed by nature", no?
In my opinion, it means that the object providing the framing is not a construct of the photographer - ie they haven't held an empty photo frame infront of the scene or had someone pose in a certain way to create a frame that isn't usually there - instead they have walked around their chosen location and noticed a scene which already incorporates an object which provides a frame for the rest of the scene - whether that object is organic or man-made is irrelevant to me.
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I totally agree, but with this thought, there should be some attempt and not just takeing a macro.
Message edited by ClubJuggle - Removed reference to specific challenge entry. |
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06/06/2005 08:47:15 AM · #20 |
isn't refering to one or more photos in a challenge that is being voted on bad or frowned upon???
Not that SC should delete your post but IMO this thread should be locked and forgotten so voting can be done fair or without prejudice.
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06/06/2005 09:09:11 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by SDW65:
I think anything that is not staged as a framed picture should meet the challenge. I didn't enter but I am voting. When I say staged I mean set up. If someone took a picture of a nice sunrise through there French doors, to me that is naturally framed. The doors were there, the sun was there and the photographer did not stage it. If someone put a rubber duck with grapes inside a shoe box, that's staged and not natural. lol |
BINGO! Too easy to stick a manufactured frame in an image and say it meets the challenge otherwise...geez! (and if I have to read your title because I can't figure out what the heck is being framed...well 3 and lower for you!) hahahaha |
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06/06/2005 09:15:56 AM · #22 |
This was an interesting thread regarding the same batted around subject: Discussions re challenges...
Originally posted by notonline:
isn't refering to one or more photos in a challenge that is being voted on bad or frowned upon???
Not that SC should delete your post but IMO this thread should be locked and forgotten so voting can be done fair or without prejudice. |
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06/06/2005 09:19:56 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
This was an interesting thread regarding the same batted around subject: Discussions re challenges...
Originally posted by notonline:
isn't refering to one or more photos in a challenge that is being voted on bad or frowned upon???
Not that SC should delete your post but IMO this thread should be locked and forgotten so voting can be done fair or without prejudice. |
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Thanks. I still feel the SC should not be deleting posts but locking threads instead BEFORE they become contraversial.
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06/06/2005 09:44:22 AM · #24 |
Keep the tread!
My photo is being hammered due to the perception of whether it meets the challenge. One of my best photo's I have entered so far, yet comments show either it very good or doesnt meet the challenge.
It appears to me that framing must consist of very simular items surrounding the subject. If the frame consists of trees that is ok. If the frame consists of water or sky thats ok. It it consists of a combination of items it is not ok. I am content with my entry and that is all that counts. I do like the critiques on the quality of the image. |
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06/06/2005 09:48:18 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by bcoble:
Keep the tread!
My photo is being hammered due to the perception of whether it meets the challenge. One of my best photo's I have entered so far, yet comments show either it very good or doesnt meet the challenge.
It appears to me that framing must consist of very simular items surrounding the subject. If the frame consists of trees that is ok. If the frame consists of water or sky thats ok. It it consists of a combination of items it is not ok. I am content with my entry and that is all that counts. I do like the critiques on the quality of the image. |
I may be guilty of what your suggesting. I never would have thought about it in this way until now. Alas with having so many entries to comment/vote on it is doubtful that I will have the chance to go back and review.
edit:
You have rated 23 of 223 images (10%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 23 images (10%) in this challenge.
Message edited by author 2005-06-06 09:58:03.
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