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06/01/2005 10:01:44 PM · #1 |
I just read the review here,
and to me it sounds like the Canon EOS 1Ds MKII is taking a beating. They're even saying that the Nikon strategy of staying with a small sensor is the best. Could that be possible?
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06/01/2005 10:04:39 PM · #2 |
i dunno i saw when they did the comparison they enlarged both to 100% but the lens also plays a very large factor in image quality. plus, if you resize the canon's image to the size of nikon's you'll see less imperfection
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06/01/2005 10:12:33 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by art-inept:
if you resize the canon's image to the size of nikon's you'll see less imperfection |
Hmm I wonder if it works like that in the prints too... I would bet on yes.
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06/01/2005 11:17:12 PM · #4 |
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06/02/2005 12:43:11 AM · #5 |
The review by Steve's Digicams illustrates somewhat higher noise in the Nikon images (at higher ISOs) than the comparable Canon cameras. I like my Nikons, but it looks like Canon does a better job when it comes to digital.
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06/02/2005 12:50:31 AM · #6 |
Looks like Canon still dominates with the low noise CMOS they produce. But in every other category Nikon finally hit the mark for a pro camera. Looks like the D2x is a much more versatile camera than what Canon puts out. For me the decision for Nikon to stay with the APS sensor seems like a good idea as it gives quite a bit more versatility in terms of speed and crop advantage while maintaining high quality images at over 12 MP.
DonĂ¢€™t you just love these wars. Now we get to see what Canon comes up with!
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06/02/2005 01:04:39 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by jbsmithana:
Looks like Canon still dominates with the low noise CMOS they produce. But in every other category Nikon finally hit the mark for a pro camera. Looks like the D2x is a much more versatile camera than what Canon puts out. For me the decision for Nikon to stay with the APS sensor seems like a good idea as it gives quite a bit more versatility in terms of speed and crop advantage while maintaining high quality images at over 12 MP.
DonĂ¢€™t you just love these wars. Now we get to see what Canon comes up with! |
Well the D2X with its 1.5X crop will have a hard time getting the wide angle shots the 1Ds II gets...it's still NOT a full frame DSLR. 1.5X crop is great for Sports and wildlife but sucks for landscapes. Different cameras for different markets...
If you want speed you'd go for a 1D II 8.5 fps 1.3x crop 8.2MP shots
Message edited by author 2005-06-02 01:06:53.
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06/02/2005 01:28:12 AM · #8 |
i know seriously, the 1d II is like a 8 mp video camera...it's crazy talk, crazy talk
Originally posted by doctornick:
Originally posted by jbsmithana:
Looks like Canon still dominates with the low noise CMOS they produce. But in every other category Nikon finally hit the mark for a pro camera. Looks like the D2x is a much more versatile camera than what Canon puts out. For me the decision for Nikon to stay with the APS sensor seems like a good idea as it gives quite a bit more versatility in terms of speed and crop advantage while maintaining high quality images at over 12 MP.
DonĂ¢€™t you just love these wars. Now we get to see what Canon comes up with! |
Well the D2X with its 1.5X crop will have a hard time getting the wide angle shots the 1Ds II gets...it's still NOT a full frame DSLR. 1.5X crop is great for Sports and wildlife but sucks for landscapes. Different cameras for different markets...
If you want speed you'd go for a 1D II 8.5 fps 1.3x crop 8.2MP shots |
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06/02/2005 01:29:30 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by doctornick:
Well the D2X with its 1.5X crop will have a hard time getting the wide angle shots the 1Ds II gets...it's still NOT a full frame DSLR. 1.5X crop is great for Sports and wildlife but sucks for landscapes. Different cameras for different markets...
If you want speed you'd go for a 1D II 8.5 fps 1.3x crop 8.2MP shots |
True enough. I guess my point was versatility. Right now the D2x appears to be the more versatile camera out there. Wide angle is an issue but my guess is most people shooting landscapes are still using medium or large format. And the lens are getting better for wide angle using a 1.5 crop.
Like you said different cameras for different markets. It will still be interesting to see the next step for Canon. I hope they keep pushing each other. It is good for all of us.
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06/02/2005 01:34:43 AM · #10 |
I'd also agree with the fact that anyone who has the money to invest in a d2x probably isn't thinking of going with landscape photography, and anyone who is primarily doing landscape photography probably spending that money on loads of 4x5 and roll film.
Also, the wide angle isn't that big of a deal, at least to me.
Nikon makes a fisheye, and you can get a 10mm zoom...though maybe not as good as a prime...that means you can get down to 15 mm rectilinear in a 35mm equivalent. I never saw anything wider than 14 mm primes anyways.
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06/02/2005 01:53:48 AM · #11 |
I don't know if you can put it on that camera but there's also a ???Peleng??? 8mm fisheye.
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06/02/2005 01:57:28 AM · #12 |
Yep, The thing that impresses me most about this camera is definately it's versatility. sure it's sports mode might be lacking a megapixel and half a frame a second (through the extra crop factor is a nice bonus - I seem to remember reading that in the sports mode it became a 2X crop factor rather than 1.5) and in the regular mode you are lacking some resolution and wide angle ability, but combine the two modes together and you've got yourself one hell of a camera.
Though realistically as someone else noted, most professional ladscape shooters are still going to be using medium format equipment, and I don't think the 1DS II even with the full frame sensor will change that.
Plus a 3000 US dollar price difference between the two - even in the pro market that's a lot of money.
All in all, I'd say - welcome back nikon. If they can just get their high ISO performance on par with Canon we'll really have ourselves a ballgame.
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