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05/25/2005 02:37:17 AM · #1
I was looking to buy my first telescope. I'm looking for something inexpensive but not a piece of junk. I have narrowed it down to these two

Meade 114EQ

Celestron firstscope 114

I would like to use this scope for basic astrophotography also. Anyone have any suggestions on a scope?
05/25/2005 11:22:12 AM · #2
Anyone?
05/25/2005 11:27:09 AM · #3
I am curious what telescopes are compatible with Canon EOS system and how one would go about mounting them?
05/25/2005 11:27:31 AM · #4
Why not a Nikon 2000mm f11?

:)
05/25/2005 11:31:40 AM · #5
....oh and before some Canonite shouts out, yeah we know about this one :)
05/25/2005 11:35:53 AM · #6
Try this one
//www.telescope.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=14904&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=3&iSubCat=109&iProductID=14904

The one you are asking about has a very smapp objective mirror and will not gather enough light to see very much. If all your interested is the Mood, then thats different, but if you are thinking about photographing deep sky objects, you want the largest mirror you can afford with a motor drive. I would suggest that you check around your area and look for an Astronomy Club. They will gladly let you look thru their scopes. In fact many clubs have public nights where they show the locals the wonders of the night sky.
05/25/2005 11:38:39 AM · #7
My husband is an amateur astronomer. He has taken some amazing pictures through his telescope using a webcam and Registax. (I'll post some later)

If you want more info. email me, or go to this website:
//cloudynights.com/
05/25/2005 12:14:19 PM · #8
I was thinking about the meade or the celestron because of the price. I wasn't sure about what I would be photographing. I'd probably be taking shots of the moon for now. I don't want to spend a lot of money and find that I got bored with the scope.
05/25/2005 01:20:48 PM · #9
Check out Orion telescopea @ telescope.com. You will be buying stright from the manafacturer so the price to performance ratio for any given model will be higher than other brands.
05/25/2005 01:31:40 PM · #10
The Meade and Celestron 114mm scopes you referenced are both basically the same instrument. While it will be a fine visual scope (beginner level) it will be largely useless from any serious standpoint for astrophotography. Make sure you really know what you want to do/accomplish with a scope before you invest any money. I've got to run now but will be happy to talk this through with you some more later. PM me and I'll watch this thread too.
05/25/2005 01:38:48 PM · #11
Celestial photography is all about signal to noise ratio. For a great s/n ratio a fast optical system is required, preferably f/5.6 or faster. The majority of astro telescopes offered today are f/10 or slower, but still can provide a decent quality image. The key is to have an equatorial mount with a clock drive to track the celestial objects. Large and nearby planets do not require much exposure time so a tracking mount is not necessary for planet photography (neptune, uranus, and pluto excepted). Stunning deep sky photographs can be obtained using the standard lenses that are supplied for your camera, but the clock driven equatorial mount is essential in order to integrate the light for a sufficient time to provide a good s/n ratio. Today's 6-8 megapixel cameras afford the photographer excellent low noise performance and an image scale that can easily be cropped for show pertinent details. Get a tracking mount!!!
05/25/2005 01:45:45 PM · #12
I am somewhat spoiled when it comes to Astronomy, because I had the pleasure of doing professional research for a while in that field, so take my advice with a grain of salt, since what I consider a "decent" telescope is out-of-whack with most people's expectations. That being said, if there was one suggestion I would have to give you, it would be to switch from manual mounts to motorized ones. And once you do that, definitely go with a Celestron mount.

The reason for that suggestion is that very quickly you'll get tired of taking shots of the moon, and the next thing usually are the Messier objects, and the planets of our solar systems (Saturn is very popular, because of the "cool" rings). However, in order to get good shots for these kind of objects, you really need to do relatively long exposures, and with a manual mount, you can't really do that, because the object will move (actually, Earth will move, but you get my point). With a motorized mount the telescope will automatically "follow" the object as the earth rotates and the object moves across the sky. The reason why I am suggesting a Celestron mount, is because from my personal experience, they are "smoother" in tracking, which will result in much better images.

The other thing you may want to think about is whether or not you really want to go with a Newtonian. But I suspect even the cheapest Cassegrain is much more expensive, so maybe that's not really an option.
05/25/2005 02:53:07 PM · #13
Thanks for all the information so far. Very helpful. I definitely have a lot to think about now! LOL
05/29/2005 11:01:24 AM · #14
Hi Shawn,

Might I suggest before buying any telescope, that you contact your local astronomy club, society.. whatever they call themselves. My local group happens to be 2 1/2 hrs away, but the knowledge gained by going and seeing what scopes are being used, looking through them is worth the drive.

Another idea is to check out a yahoo group called digital_astro. There you will find awesome images, but you will also learn about what scopes are being used to get them.

Good luck!
-Christine
05/29/2005 11:37:19 AM · #15
Hi,
I have the meade etx-90 (a Cassegrain) and i am really impressed, its easy to mount a camera, particularly an SLR via A T-mount + adaptor. Else look HERE. I got it because although i have an interest in astronomy... i havent much of a clue! so I found the Autostar really handy for learning. Only thing i would say it that quite quickly I found myself wishing I'd got a larger one, but the price seems to up exponentially! & I cant really justify it as i'm such a novice.

Some links you may find handy:

www.skymaps.com for free maps every month!

www.weasner.com All about the Meade ETX series, but loads of useful stuff on there which I hope you'll find interesting.

Good luck!
MARK
05/29/2005 11:42:24 AM · #16
I have the Meade DS-2114ATS and had I not broken it, I would use it as often as I could. The break was totally my fault. Good scope.

June
05/29/2005 11:43:09 AM · #17
Badboy21, please read this before buying a telescope

How to chose a telescope

if you want to do any imaging through a tlescope, you want a GEM mount (german equitorial mount) and one that will has drive morots to track the object. Unfortunatelly you wont get anyting good enough under $400, Maybe not it could be very dissapointing

James
05/29/2005 11:50:14 AM · #18
Originally posted by theSaj:

I am curious what telescopes are compatible with Canon EOS system and how one would go about mounting them?


Any scope is compatible with any camera, you just need the correct adapters to make it connect.

for a DSLR you need a T-Mount
check here and scroll down to t-rings
T-Rings

if the scope does not have T-threads, you can use the 1 1/4 eyepiece adapter so it would be - Camera-TRing- 1 1/4 adapter - scope

James
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