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05/22/2005 05:51:47 PM · #1 |
Hi All:
Newbie here ready to enter 2nd open challenge. I'm confused about adjustment layers, and are they really legal for basic editing?
I got a real ugly granular picture, used Paint Shop Pro 9 (I know you guys use Photoshop, but I don't have the funds for it right now), went to Layers>New Adjustment Layer>Curves and played around. The result is not half bad but it looks so different!!
Is it really OK to enter a photo that looks so different than the original? Don't want to get disqualified on my second entry!! |
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05/22/2005 05:55:18 PM · #2 |
Yes, adjustment layers are legal in basic editing -- says so in the rules. However, it is worth mentioning that they are also subject to the 'spirit of the rules' clause just as anything else is. If the image is changed drastically, to the point of 'adding, removing or moving major elements' the image may be deemed illegal.
Also worth noting, if the image 'looks' heavily edited it will likely suffer heavily during voting -- this is not always true, but is generally so.
David
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05/22/2005 05:57:58 PM · #3 |
The technique of using an adjustment layer is allowed in Basic editing, as long as you applied the effect to the entire photo, i.e. used no selections or masks.
It is possible to be DQ'd for making your photo too non-photographic, and thus violating the "spirit of the rules" -- but this is rarely done for color-shifting with Curves alone ... however "past performance is no guarantee of future results" as they say in the mutual funds ads ...
Examples of Curves in use
Message edited by author 2005-05-22 17:59:50. |
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05/22/2005 06:21:38 PM · #4 |
Is Selective Colors allowed under basic editing ? |
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05/22/2005 06:34:57 PM · #5 |
David and General:
Thanks for getting back so quickly. I know that I can do editing to the entire photo ie no selections. Thanks David, for the warning about low scores for heavily editied photos. My entry won't look heavily editd, just "nice" when I get through with it. (Salvaging something real ugly).
Also thanks for the link to demonstrate what curves can do.
The photo will still look like a photo when I'm done with it.
Greg
Message edited by author 2005-05-22 18:35:50. |
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05/22/2005 06:44:06 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by peterish:
Is Selective Colors allowed under basic editing ? |
Yes. As an adjustm,ent layer, applied to the entire image.
Robt.
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05/22/2005 06:55:27 PM · #7 |
Just remember that adjustment layers have to be applied in normal mode for basic editting.
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05/22/2005 07:03:01 PM · #8 |
In Paint Shop Pro 9, I don't have a choice of "Modes", but maybe it's called something else. Could someone rattle off a few Mode name? Don't want to be difficult, just don't want to be disqualified. The more I look at my potential entry, the more I'm beginning to like it...
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05/22/2005 07:33:42 PM · #9 |
The mode is called "normal" in photoshop or elements. I haven't used Paint Shop Pro, so I can't help you there, but I'm sure someone will.
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05/22/2005 07:36:15 PM · #10 |
Greg, I believe the modes are this (not all of them, just a few so you can recognize them in PSP):
normal, dissolve, darken, multiply, lighten, screen, overlay, difference, exclusion, hue, color..... etc
There are a few more, but I hope this will help you.
I changed from PSP to PS for this very reason.... all the tips and tutorials are always for PS, never for PSP :-(
Good luck |
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05/22/2005 07:41:24 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
I changed from PSP to PS for this very reason.... all the tips and tutorials are always for PS, never for PSP :-( |
The tips and tutorials are written by members, as a voluntary contribution to the site. Anyone who wants to write a tutorial or how-to article describing techniques as executed in PSP (or the GIMP or anything else) is more than welcome to do so. |
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05/22/2005 07:41:30 PM · #12 |
Thanks, Beetle.
My photo should withstand the Site Council's scrutiny. As far as I can tell, I didn't do anything "wrong".
Greg |
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05/22/2005 07:46:04 PM · #13 |
General, I hope you didn't misinterpret that as a complaint about DPC - it wasn't!
I am simply stating a fact. By far the majority of tips, tutorials, advice, questions etc are about photoshop - on DPC, as well as everywhere else I have looked (except perhaps the jasc/correl website *g*).
Photoshop is THE bible of photo postprocessing, that's all there is to it. Someone has to be at the top getting most of the limelight, and in this case - like it or not - it is photoshop. |
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05/22/2005 07:53:01 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by BikerGreg:
In Paint Shop Pro 9, I don't have a choice of "Modes", but maybe it's called something else. Could someone rattle off a few Mode name? Don't want to be difficult, just don't want to be disqualified. The more I look at my potential entry, the more I'm beginning to like it...
Greg |
In PSP the layer's Properties dialog box has a drop down box for Blend Modes -- this must remain on normal for the basic editing rules.
David
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05/22/2005 08:22:51 PM · #15 |
David:
You're the man. Figured it out. Found the mode selection dialog box and by default it is normal. There's alot of stuff in that program!!!
Greg |
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05/22/2005 08:54:36 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Beetle:
I changed from PSP to PS for this very reason.... all the tips and tutorials are always for PS, never for PSP :-( |
The tips and tutorials are written by members, as a voluntary contribution to the site. Anyone who wants to write a tutorial or how-to article describing techniques as executed in PSP (or the GIMP or anything else) is more than welcome to do so. |
I use GIMP, but it's basically just blundering around. I would LOVE to see a GIMP tutorial....
Sara
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05/22/2005 08:55:35 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by saracat:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Beetle:
I changed from PSP to PS for this very reason.... all the tips and tutorials are always for PS, never for PSP :-( |
The tips and tutorials are written by members, as a voluntary contribution to the site. Anyone who wants to write a tutorial or how-to article describing techniques as executed in PSP (or the GIMP or anything else) is more than welcome to do so. |
I use GIMP, but it's basically just blundering around. I would LOVE to see a GIMP tutorial....
Sara |
here's one for ya. take one full body leather grope suit, one red rubber ball.... oh wait not that kind of gimp....sorry
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05/22/2005 08:56:46 PM · #18 |
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05/22/2005 08:57:20 PM · #19 |
you trying to make her laugh to death?
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05/22/2005 09:53:51 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
General, I hope you didn't misinterpret that as a complaint about DPC - it wasn't! |
Nope -- just trying to point out one possible solution.
I've never used PSP, so I'm not much help with it myself, but I typically use an old version of PS as well -- most of my information revolves around basic function like resolution and sharpening, which pretty much translate easily between programs, and not about the newest/coolest features. |
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