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05/20/2005 11:54:50 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by Kavey:
Absolutely no moral issues for me whatsoever. One man's horse is another man's beef is another man's dog is another man's snake is another man's mopane worm. |
Mmmmmmmm, mopane worm...
What the heck is a mopane worm?? :?
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05/20/2005 11:59:16 AM · #27 |
Ken, why are you wasting our time asking a silly question like this?
Everyone knows they are worms found in a window manufacturing plant in Detroit.
Geez... |
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05/20/2005 12:05:10 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by kpriest:
Originally posted by Kavey:
Absolutely no moral issues for me whatsoever. One man's horse is another man's beef is another man's dog is another man's snake is another man's mopane worm. |
Mmmmmmmm, mopane worm...
What the heck is a mopane worm?? :? |
It's a caterpillar type thing eaten in Southern Africa... I tried one once. Didn't do much for me so I stuck to the biltong!
Here's a passage about it:
The "mopane worm" Imbrassia belina is probably the most important insect in southern Africa from a cultural point of view. Here it is well known as either Mashonzha, Masonja or Amasonja. It forms the basis of a multi-million rand trade in edible insects, providing a livelihood for many harvesters, traders and their families.
Message edited by author 2005-05-20 12:06:22.
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05/20/2005 12:07:03 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Ken, why are you wasting our time asking a silly question like this?
Everyone knows they are worms found in a window manufacturing plant in Detroit.
Geez... |
Doh! I forgot that I saw that sign in a photo of your shop...
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05/20/2005 12:07:41 PM · #30 |
Apparently:
Caterpillars are prepared for eating by squeezing out the gut contents before they are fried in their own body fat or boiled in a little water. Most of the caterpillars are dried so that they can be stored for use throughout the year. Dried caterpillars may be eaten dry as a snack or rehydrated and cooked in a little water before they are fried in oil with onion and tomato. They may be served with pap (maize meal porridge), onion and tomato gravy and atchar (chili sauce).
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05/20/2005 12:09:55 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Kavey:
It's a caterpillar type thing eaten in Southern Africa... I tried one once. Didn't do much for me so I stuck to the biltong! |
Ugh. I'll stick to the Detroit version. ;-)
Thanks for that, though. :)
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05/20/2005 12:11:07 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Kavey:
Apparently:
Caterpillars are prepared for eating by squeezing out the gut contents before they are fried in their own body fat or boiled in a little water. Most of the caterpillars are dried so that they can be stored for use throughout the year. Dried caterpillars may be eaten dry as a snack or rehydrated and cooked in a little water before they are fried in oil with onion and tomato. They may be served with pap (maize meal porridge), onion and tomato gravy and atchar (chili sauce). |
Now I am REAL sorry I opened that can of worms (pun inherent). :P
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05/20/2005 12:12:32 PM · #33 |
We eat hotdogs in the states, could anything be much worse?
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05/20/2005 12:14:23 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by kpriest:
Doh! I forgot that I saw that sign in a photo of your shop... |
Good thing we were never in the same classroom in school.
We both would have spent more time out of class, in the Principal's
office or if they were lucky, in some facility with people in white coats!
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05/20/2005 12:14:45 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by louddog:
We eat hotdogs in the states, could anything be much worse? |
Frankly, I'll take a hot dog over a mopane worm anyday! ;-)
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05/20/2005 12:20:12 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by kpriest:
Originally posted by louddog:
We eat hotdogs in the states, could anything be much worse? |
Frankly, I'll take a hot dog over a mopane worm anyday! ;-) |
You're sure there's a difference? When's the last time you visited a sausage factory? |
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05/20/2005 12:23:57 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by BradP:
Originally posted by kpriest:
Doh! I forgot that I saw that sign in a photo of your shop... |
Good thing we were never in the same classroom in school.
We both would have spent more time out of class, in the Principal's
office or if they were lucky, in some facility with people in white coats! |
Yeah, my mama warned me about associating with guys like you. ...or was it your mama warned you about associating with guys like me? No, wait - I remember now - Guys like you warned me about associating with my mama. :P
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05/20/2005 12:25:14 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by kpriest:
Originally posted by louddog:
We eat hotdogs in the states, could anything be much worse? |
Frankly, I'll take a hot dog over a mopane worm anyday! ;-) |
You're sure there's a difference? When's the last time you visited a sausage factory? |
From my favorite quotes book:
"What ya don't know can't hurt ya"
"That which does not kill you, makes you stronger"
"Ignorance and hot dogs is bliss"
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05/20/2005 12:28:28 PM · #39 |
Yes....Tofu Dogs are even worse than Hot Dogs...
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05/20/2005 12:45:41 PM · #40 |
For my practical final in my culinary class I drew from a hat..... kangaroo. I have been researching recipes and found a few interesting ones. Anyone ever eaten it? Any secrets about cooking it that would be helpful to me?
Barbara
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05/20/2005 12:46:49 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by BAMartin:
For my practical final in my culinary class I drew from a hat..... kangaroo. I have been researching recipes and found a few interesting ones. Anyone ever eaten it? Any secrets about cooking it that would be helpful to me?
Barbara |
Serve with a side of tofu dogs and mopane worms. Mmmmmm. ;-)
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05/20/2005 12:48:30 PM · #42 |
At least they are telling you ahead of time. For the Iron Chef competitions, they don't reveal the main ingredient until just before they start ...
You may have to wait a few hours for the Southern Hemisphere contingent to log in, if they're not still up. |
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05/20/2005 01:52:17 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by BAMartin:
For my practical final in my culinary class I drew from a hat..... kangaroo. I have been researching recipes and found a few interesting ones. Anyone ever eaten it? Any secrets about cooking it that would be helpful to me?
Barbara |
Yes I cooked it once, just used a beef recipe and did it very slowly! Strong taste and I must admit I never bothered again. I said this to an Aussie once and he laughed and told me the Aussies only feed it to their dogs! Don't know if this true. English supermarkets do sell it along with some other delights!
Returning to the horsemeat debate-
1. I would rather eat the worm! I can't ride one of those!
2. Seroiusly, I just don't like the way they are transported alive for hundreds of miles in dreadful conditions.
3. The true wild ponies of England are dying out and many of them end up at the meat market.
Mind you this is from someone who can't eat a rabbit either which I KNOW is ridiculous!
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05/20/2005 01:52:34 PM · #44 |
| BAMarting, never had it....but I hear it has a LOT of kick! |
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05/21/2005 03:37:06 PM · #45 |
I personally would not eat a horse, knowingly. I wouldn't eat veal either. I don't begrudge anyone else who does. I've tried rattlesnake, calf-fries (calf-balls), buffalo, rabbit, and deer & elk meat (from Oregon). I liked the rattlesnake, I didn't like the calf fries, and I didn't care for the buffalo and rabbit either. I'm from the US so I wouldn't eat a dog or cat either. However, if I had been raised somewhere else and grew up with it being the 'norm' of course my taste would be different. A lot of people down here (Florida) don't seem to care for deer meat and say it's too gamey (I still don't understand that) but I ate it all the time in Oregon...mainly because, when you're hungry you'll eat what you can...especially if it saves money! Also, when I lived in Oregon, and was married, we had a dairy ranch (yup, milked cows for a living!) and we would have one of our own cows slaughtered and made up into packages....again the saving money factor.
I would would NOT knowingly eat any kind of worm...again, upbringing...but then I've never been hungry enough I had to resort to that! :)
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05/21/2005 03:46:17 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by BAMartin:
kangaroo. Anyone ever eaten it? |
My husband is Australian and has eaten it before- it's not super common to eat in Oz, as I understand it. He said it's very rich and strong flavored, extremely low in fat. So my guess is it'd be easy to screw it up and end up with very tough meat. Sorry I can't be of more help ;)
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05/22/2005 04:21:16 PM · #47 |
I´m so surprised that no Icelander has said a word here!?? I grew up eating horsemeat and it was usually from an older animal. You can still find it smoked, salted and fresh for stews. I don´t eat it anymore since I grew up, mostly because I admire and love the Icelandic horse for it´s intelligence and gentle nature and it somehow seems wrong. On the other hand I love whale meat, it used to be the staple of any household because beef was seldom available and whalemeat is tender and tasty. All the publicity about saving the whales is overstated and doesn´t apply at all for the kind of whales that are/were caught around Iceland and not endangered species at all.
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05/22/2005 05:27:09 PM · #48 |
Been around the world and to quite a few exotic places. I have an adventuresome palate and have enjoyed many different and wonderful foods. But I have two simple rules regarding food:
1st; and most important, don't eat anything that moves.
2nd; cook it, peel it, or don't eat it.
There are many occasions where I will violate the second rule when I know what I'm doing and where. But I never violate the first!
After that, pretty much anything goes. |
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05/24/2005 07:53:25 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by legalbeagle:
I have tried a horse burger when I was a teenager. I did it to upset my sister (who likes horses). It was nothing to write home about.
I was going to write a long spiel about psychological relationships being founded in the home, and shrinkwrapped society. But then I recalled that the French had a Horse-Eating Society founded when Paris was under siege in 1870 and thought the following about siege food might be slightly more interesting.
"The first substitute for the regular meat diet was horse. Parisians disdained it, at first, and it took the Horse-Eating Society to inform the public of the advantages to eating horse. When it finally came down to eating them, all breeds were included, from thoroughbred to mules. With time even this type of nourishment became rare, so other meats were introduced into the diet. Dogs, cats, and rats (14) were frequently eaten. The animals of the zoo were added to this diet, including Castor and Pollux, the two elephants that were the pride of Paris. Only the lions, tigers, and monkeys were spared; the big cats for the difficulty of approaching them, the monkeys because of "some vague Darwinian notion that they were the relatives of the people of Paris and eating them would be tantamount to cannibalism." (15)" |
It worked by the way Matt - thanks for thinking of me.
I don't have a problem (now) with horses being eaten for meat (although I can't bring myself to try it). I, like many people, like rabbits. I also like rabbit stew... I do, however, have a problem with the transportation of live animals destined for consumption.
If horses from the UK that are killed for meat overseas were slaughtered here, it would cease the suffering that they undergo on their last journey alive. Horses are often transported without food, water and without a break, in appalling cramped and dirty conditions for 48 hours and longer, only to be slaughtered at the other end. Many other animals undergo such a fate - live transportation for animals that are for consumption should be banned.
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