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05/16/2005 09:28:07 PM · #1 |
For the benefit of those of us whose cameras can't do double exposure, I thought it might be an idea if we had a special rules challenge where our images had to be a combination of exactly two separate exposures. The rest of the editting rules could be unchanged so that this didn't go too far into the realms of digital art.
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05/16/2005 09:32:57 PM · #2 |
| I like the idea and has been discussed before but no challenge yet. |
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05/16/2005 10:31:09 PM · #3 |
I like the idea. I like the idea.
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05/16/2005 10:32:57 PM · #4 |
Nice idea. The only thing I don't like about my camera is no possibility for double exposures. This would allow me to create one for the challenge.
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05/16/2005 10:36:11 PM · #5 |
| ok so i am finally getting my photographs to be recognizable for what they are and now you want a challenge for what i have been trying to overcome....i am always a dollar shy and a day late |
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05/16/2005 10:39:51 PM · #6 |
This suggestion strikes me as not exactly in the spirit of dpc, it may be more appropriate at another site that leans more toward digital art and image manipulation.
Just my two cents.
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05/16/2005 10:53:30 PM · #7 |
who is this spirit of dpc and when can i meet her?
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05/16/2005 10:55:15 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by totaldis:
who is this spirit of dpc and when can i meet her? |
You're confusing the "spirit of DPC" with the "Sprite of DPC", LOL ;-)
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05/16/2005 11:20:20 PM · #9 |
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05/17/2005 12:29:45 AM · #10 |
Since when is a double exposure digital art? Multiple exposures have been around for a long time especially with film. Also, photographers still combine more than one slide into one mount to create a composite image. Having this type of challenge every once in a while could be fun.
The challenge with these is getting the exposure right in each image to be included so the final result has the right exposure.
Using basic editing except allowing different blending modes other than normal to allow for the merging of images I think may work.
Just my 2 cents.
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05/17/2005 01:11:34 AM · #11 |
I think this would be a neat challenge.
I also think it might be interesting to allow unlimited exposures, as long as they were all taken by the photog and all within the time frame
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05/17/2005 01:33:52 AM · #12 |
I think it's fairly silly to think of the "spirit of DPC" as being somehow threatened by occasional forays into more liberal waters. Obviously we don't want this as a weekly diet, but it can be very interesting to do regardless, and a LOT of people on-site enjoy playing around with multiple exposures. The thing of it is, as a FILM photographer I did this all the time, combinining images in one way or another. For example, as an architectural photographer I often needed a striking 'theme' image of a certain building on a deadline, and the weather might not cooperate. So I'd make a mask, rubylith, of the sky areas on an image and then burn in a better sky from a stock of photos I kept. Ditto for architectural model shoots, where we'd use a pure white background and sandwich in a sky shot lit from the correct angle.
Then of course for as long as there's been commercial photography there have been skilled artists working with ad agencies etc who could combine multiple images and airbrush 'em to perfection so they could be made into separations for layouts. And artistic photographers have done all manner of multiple-image work, collages etc since the very beginning of this art.
So there's a long history far predating digital photography, of the use of multiple-image technology in the commercial and artistic fields of our craft. Now, I completely understand that it is NOT a "good idea" to open the floodgates and make multiple-image works eligible for everyday challenges. But I cannot for the LIFE of me understand how the site is "threatened" in any way if we make occasional forays out into the world behind our limited rules. It's all for fun, and it's all good in my eyes.
Robt.
Message edited by author 2005-05-17 01:35:10.
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05/17/2005 03:13:45 AM · #13 |
Using only one image for challenge entries has been one of the foundation principles here at dpc for quite a long time. Very few of our users have cameras that are capable of putting two, or more, exposures into one file. So basically what you are talking about in a double exposure challenge would be an exercise in combining multiple files with software. There is nothing wrong with that as a photographic technique. It's just not what dpc is about. And I don't think it is right to call combining files a basic technique. Beginners would be put off by it.
dpc can't be all things to all people. Best to stick to what we do well, which is educating people in use of digital cameras. And let the other sites that are good at that be the places where people do exercises in file combining.
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05/17/2005 03:51:20 AM · #14 |
My double exposure entry for the last challenge, but it didn't score that well, but was fun doing it.
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05/17/2005 11:26:25 AM · #15 |
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05/17/2005 11:43:35 AM · #16 |
i gave it a 7.
Originally posted by caba:
My double exposure entry for the last challenge, but it didn't score that well, but was fun doing it.
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05/17/2005 11:55:07 AM · #17 |
Both the following challenges allowed multiple-image work. In fact, one of them REQUIRED it. And they go way back in DPC history. I can't see where they've done any lasting damage to the community.
//www.dpchallenge.com/challenge_results.php?CHALLENGE_ID=90
//www.dpchallenge.com/challenge_results.php?CHALLENGE_ID=124
I rest my case, it's silly to worry about the "spirit" of DPC. If we're not strong enough to survive an occasional walk on the wild side, we're too weak to survive anyway.
Robt.
edit: I* mean, silly to worry in the case of suggestions like this for a one-off challenge. It's good to worry about our "spirit" in a broader sense, certainly.
Message edited by author 2005-05-17 11:57:07.
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05/17/2005 12:33:09 PM · #18 |
I like the idea, and was going to recommend something similar myself calling it a Juxtaposition challenge, in which two opposing themes or subjects would have to be combined in one image. For instance, artificial/synthetic and natural...or, male and female. A juxtaposition challenge could be an ongoing series with different themes.
This could be done with both open and member challenges, where only the member challenges would be allowed use of compositing means in software. This would encourage learning a technical skill. However, I feel that the open contest would really be more challenging.
Message edited by author 2005-05-17 12:58:40. |
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05/17/2005 12:46:34 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by kpriest:
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Ken, you are SERIOUSLY a NUT!
I honestly wish I had 1/4 of your talent and creativity. |
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