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05/09/2005 10:15:31 AM · #26
I had a 1Ds for a while and found that it really wasn̢۪t the camera for me. The resolution was very nice but I found the output to be quite noisy as you bumped the ISO up to 400 and beyond. The sensor is also very tough on wide angle lenses. I don̢۪t think Canon had really perfected the microlenses when they came out with this model and this is the source of the problem as the same lenses work great with film. Hopefully the 1Ds2 is better in this respect but I haven̢۪t tried one so I don̢۪t know. I found that the camera was pretty slow, especially saving RAW files. I am talking about I/O not AF speed (which is nice and fast). In the end I found the camera no to be worth the money to me and sold it in favor of a 1D2.

Tom
05/09/2005 10:18:39 AM · #27
Originally posted by KevinRiggs:

MA,

Hey, I thought you sold your 1Ds. What do you like better about the Mark II now that you've shot both of them? Guess that goes for Gil or Brent or Greg or anyone else out there who's used both of these bodies. Where are the important trade offs?



The shots load faster. Less lag time. Less missed shots. The difference between the size I can resize the images to between the 2 cameras seems minimal.
05/09/2005 10:23:06 AM · #28
Originally posted by ovenbird:

I had a 1Ds for a while and found that it really wasn̢۪t the camera for me. The resolution was very nice but I found the output to be quite noisy as you bumped the ISO up to 400 and beyond. The sensor is also very tough on wide angle lenses.


Never had those problems with mine. Not at all. I never shot wider then 20mm though. The noise problem you say you had must have been a problem you had with your individual camera or the settings you were using it at. My 1Ds was always very clean at higher ISO settings.
05/09/2005 10:28:56 AM · #29
Originally posted by theSaj:

Hey nsbca, why not sell him your 1Ds .... ;)


I did sell my 1Ds on eBay a few months ago, but the high bidder had a rating of 2 and never paid for the thing. So here it sits on my shelf. $4500 will take the body. It is in perfect cosmetic and operating condition with a little over 9000 actuations. It's just not fast enough for me with the wildlife work I am now doing.
05/09/2005 10:30:44 AM · #30
Originally posted by Gil P:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Well I own a 1Ds and a 1D Mk II. I shoot on an average 500 shots per week. Sometimes as much as 2000. The 1Ds sits on the shelf. Enough said?


I'm perplexed, what do you do that requires you taking up to 2000shots per week?


Nothing requires me to do anything. I do as I please.
05/09/2005 10:44:04 AM · #31
I think it has more to do with personal standards than anything as the 1Ds is widely accepted as being poor at high ISO performance. At ISO 50, 100 and 200 I found the 1Ds to be very good, at 400 it is decent and beyond that it isn̢۪t exactly what I would call good. Take a look at output from a 1Ds2 at say ISO 800 or higher and compare that to the 1Ds and you will see what I am talking about. As far as camera settings are concerned I always turn the in-camera sharpening off (in-camera sharpening really hurts the noise performance). Try popping a 14mm f/2.8 or a 24mm f/1.4 on your 1Ds and shoot it wide open and see what you get. If you are always shooting stopped down then you won't see the problems. According to the factory service center in Irvine, CA my 1Ds was up to snuff in all areas so I don̢۪t think I had a bad camera.

Tom

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by ovenbird:

I had a 1Ds for a while and found that it really wasn̢۪t the camera for me. The resolution was very nice but I found the output to be quite noisy as you bumped the ISO up to 400 and beyond. The sensor is also very tough on wide angle lenses.


Never had those problems with mine. Not at all. I never shot wider then 20mm though. The noise problem you say you had must have been a problem you had with your individual camera or the settings you were using it at. My 1Ds was always very clean at higher ISO settings.
05/09/2005 10:57:16 AM · #32
Originally posted by nsbca7:

The shots load faster. Less lag time. Less missed shots. The difference between the size I can resize the images to between the 2 cameras seems minimal.


I figured the speed would be a big seller for what you do. BTW, how's your show going down there? I keep meaning to mention that I really like your shot of the doll in the river as well as the self portrait on the first page of your website; looks like that was done in a diner or something.

Jeremy, looks like you have some ideas from several angles here. Good luck and be sure to keep us posted.

Kev
05/09/2005 11:31:50 AM · #33
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by Gil P:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Well I own a 1Ds and a 1D Mk II. I shoot on an average 500 shots per week. Sometimes as much as 2000. The 1Ds sits on the shelf. Enough said?


I'm perplexed, what do you do that requires you taking up to 2000shots per week?


Nothing requires me to do anything. I do as I please.


[[[He's a DPC-a-holic and unable to shoot less than 100+ photos a day. ;) ]]]
05/09/2005 12:13:48 PM · #34
Originally posted by KevinRiggs:

Originally posted by nsbca7:

The shots load faster. Less lag time. Less missed shots. The difference between the size I can resize the images to between the 2 cameras seems minimal.


BTW, how's your show going down there? I keep meaning to mention that I really like your shot of the doll in the river as well as the self portrait on the first page of your website; looks like that was done in a diner or something.



The show? Screw shows. I don't think I will be doing many in the future. I have wildlife show that I am commited to on the 22nd then nothing for a while. I don't much like being the center of attention.

The Portrait show I have done I thought went very well, but because I am single and because of all the stupid asses and small minds that come standard with a small town there seems to be an undercurrent of gossip going around with words like "pedophile" in it. God forbid someone should take a picture of a child. Must be a deviant, otherwise why whoud he want to?

The people who know me and the people who's children I did the portraits of are fine. They trust me. I should just let it roll off my back, but I want to just stay in the woods and do my wildlife.
05/09/2005 12:19:45 PM · #35
Originally posted by ovenbird:

I think it has more to do with personal standards than anything as the 1Ds is widely accepted as being poor at high ISO performance.


Compared to the 1D Mk II or the 1Ds Mk II perhaps, but compared to any of the 1Ds contemporaries or anything that came before the 1Ds was the cleanest camera in existence at high ISO settings. It made the Kodaks, Nikons and Fujis look like crap in comparison.
05/09/2005 12:23:49 PM · #36
I certainly can̢۪t disagree with that.

Tom

Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by ovenbird:

I think it has more to do with personal standards than anything as the 1Ds is widely accepted as being poor at high ISO performance.


Compared to the 1D Mk II or the 1Ds Mk II perhaps, but compared to any of the 1Ds contemporaries or anything that came before the 1Ds was the cleanest camera in existence at high ISO settings. It made the Kodaks, Nikons and Fujis look like crap in comparison.
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