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05/05/2005 12:20:09 PM · #76 |
Agreed - city or country photos at night generally require longer shutter speed times. This makes it limiting for many digital camera owners to take without some form of supplemental lighting - most often on-camera flash or "painting" with a low level flashlight.
Originally posted by legalbeagle:
good cityscape night time photos often still require long exposures, though admittedly there may be more options in the city than the countryside if you want to take a fast shutter speed photo.
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Mike - You forgot to mention the lack of long shutter speed capability of many mid to low end cameras. |
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05/05/2005 12:20:49 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Actually, it doesn't sound like you agree very much at all |
I agree with the commenter, not mfairbanks. I agree that such a shot meets the challenge description, but difficulties with equipment availability should influence the photographer's choice of shot, not my decision on the quality of the image, vote or comments. |
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05/05/2005 12:33:08 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by legalbeagle:
Is the missing word deliberate? Can we fill in the blank?
Originally posted by coolhar:
I just hope they are still there at the end so we can ******* who put them in. |
[******* added] |
The missing word was supposed to be see, fixed it.
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05/05/2005 12:35:01 PM · #79 |
Ok dokie Mr. Canon EOS-20D. You win...all non-natural light shots in this challenge are not worthy.
Originally posted by legalbeagle:
...difficulties with equipment availability should influence the photographer's choice of shot, not my decision on the quality of the image, vote or comments. |
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05/05/2005 12:49:16 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Ok dokie Mr. Canon EOS-20D. You win...all non-natural light shots in this challenge are not worthy.
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You misrepresent me: I said that I should not (and in fact cannot due to anonymity) take equipment restrictions into account when voting or commenting.
I agree that P&S cameras have a tougher time for night shots (as they do in other comps, such as those requiring narrow DoF).
I have to work around restrictions in my equipment (eg cheap, wobbly tripod, lack of studio lighting, lack of macro lenses etc) by choosing my subject more carefully. I do not complain that people commented on lack of clarity in my Jewellery entry that was caused by lack of proper lighting and a slow non-macro lens. I should have chosen a different method of portraying the subject, and/or a different subject.
There is nothing wrong with using the flash per se, but there are quite a few pics in the challenge that, in my opinion, fail to do so very well. In particular, those pics that are of daytime subjects, merely taken at night with flash (of which there are a few).
Message edited by author 2005-05-05 12:51:28. |
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05/05/2005 12:52:48 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
The missing word was supposed to be see, fixed it. |
Sorry - was being flippant. Was having fun in my mind (by myself - sad) filling in the blanks ... |
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05/05/2005 12:55:36 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by legalbeagle:
Originally posted by coolhar:
The missing word was supposed to be see, fixed it. |
Sorry - was being flippant. Was having fun in my mind (by myself - sad) filling in the blanks ... |
I'm fine with any opinion you may have but what concerns me more is...who are you billing for this hour?????
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05/05/2005 12:56:11 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
...who are you billing for this hour????? |
Are you offering to pay? |
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05/05/2005 01:22:24 PM · #84 |
Not unless you are a tax lawyer? There I could use your help.
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05/05/2005 01:28:26 PM · #85 |
NYC tax law is sadly not my speciality - if it were, I would have a 1DsMkII.
It is past 1730 GMT, and I am merely idling while waiting to escape to the pub. Fear not the padded bill!
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05/06/2005 01:33:58 PM · #86 |
| This was my first entry in a challenge and I think I chose the wrong one to start on! I'm getting some comments thank you very much and useful information on what is wrong with the shot but not how to solve the problems! ~I'm a real amateur/beginner so please help! `What does *grainy* mean and how do I get rid of flare around artificial lights? Answers in simple English please! By the way I did use a tripod, didn't use a flash and it is outside at night so I think I achieved something!!!! |
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05/06/2005 02:12:36 PM · #87 |
"Grainy" refers to digital noise, which often becomes a problem in low-light situations. There are tools like NeatImage, NoiseNinja, or the built-in tools for PaintShopPro and Photoshop. Do a forum search for 'noise', you'll find some threads discussing the issue.
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05/06/2005 02:45:17 PM · #88 |
I agree that some of the photos are amazing!
I am disappointed with myself for not checking my photo after I uploaded it... i uploaded a smaller one by mistake. I think I would ahve gotten a better response had I submitted the larger size *sigh*
It was my first submission here so I ahve learned my lesson.
I am upset that a no camera, vote only comment was rather rude.... |
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05/06/2005 02:50:01 PM · #89 |
"It doesn't show your night shooting capabilities if you have to put a big light on it :("
:rant on. Come on people, use some common sense. We don't take a photo of a subject, we take a photo of the light reflecting off the subject. Everything we photograph is "painted" by light, either natural or man-made (except in certain parts of Australia and some pastures). If someone used a laser or a flash to enhance the light or nothing at all, that's fine. Just judge the photographer's results, not how it was achieved. :rant off. |
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05/06/2005 02:56:58 PM · #90 |
Originally posted by nsmith:
"It doesn't show your night shooting capabilities if you have to put a big light on it :("
:rant on. Come on people, use some common sense. We don't take a photo of a subject, we take a photo of the light reflecting off the subject. Everything we photograph is "painted" by light, either natural or man-made (except in certain parts of Australia and some pastures). If someone used a laser or a flash to enhance the light or nothing at all, that's fine. Just judge the photographer's results, not how it was achieved. :rant off. |
don't worry too much about it.. I have a comment
" Although it's a nice exposure, its a boring picture. Severe lack of imagination and freshness."
...and this would be my highest score.. I didn't know dpchallenge likes boring pictures ;) |
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05/06/2005 06:36:19 PM · #91 |
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Message edited by author 2005-05-06 18:44:28. |
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05/06/2005 06:36:21 PM · #92 |
Sorry logged in wrong name!
Message edited by author 2005-05-06 18:41:29. |
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05/06/2005 06:36:59 PM · #93 |
Comments, like raw scores, must be taken on an average basis. Because we are dealing with what amounts to near polling numbers on this site, we must accept that tastes in photography as well as commentor's capabilities for succinct expression will both vary widely..... from 1 to 10, as it were. I have received a comment that my entry was emotionally satisfying for one person, while another was totally baffled as to why the shot was entered. I suspect the actual merit of the shot is found somewhere between these two comments, just as their scoring will blend to make my final ranking.
I am the only person that I must satisfy with my photographs. To enter our shots here, we open ourselves to public scrutiny and often public contempt. Accepting what comes our way as a result of entering a challenge is, in some ways, more of a valuable life lesson than one of photography. We will never fully understand the controversy of diversity, but we certainly can enjoy the debates it fosters. Like most of life, the outcome is already assigned by attitude.
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05/06/2005 06:39:29 PM · #94 |
Originally posted by gloda:
"Grainy" refers to digital noise, which often becomes a problem in low-light situations. There are tools like NeatImage, NoiseNinja, or the built-in tools for PaintShopPro and Photoshop. Do a forum search for 'noise', you'll find some threads discussing the issue. |
many thanks! I really appreciate the help and it's great that people take the time to help. I'm scoring 4.88 at present so I am really pleased - anything over a 1 or 2 would have been great.
Another problem - my Mac monitor is very good and on it my pic is clear but on other monitors I can not see the detail. How do you allow for this in challenges?
Thanks again to you experienced people for your help.
Roll on "triangles" -I can't stop looking for possible shots since I read the challenge. I think I'm hooked!
Message edited by author 2005-05-06 18:47:45. |
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05/06/2005 06:50:07 PM · #95 |
Originally posted by RonBeam:
Comments, like raw scores, must be taken on an average basis. Because we are dealing with what amounts to near polling numbers on this site, we must accept that tastes in photography as well as commentor's capabilities for succinct expression will both vary widely..... from 1 to 10, as it were. I have received a comment that my entry was emotionally satisfying for one person, while another was totally baffled as to why the shot was entered. I suspect the actual merit of the shot is found somewhere between these two comments, just as their scoring will blend to make my final ranking.
I am the only person that I must satisfy with my photographs. To enter our shots here, we open ourselves to public scrutiny and often public contempt. Accepting what comes our way as a result of entering a challenge is, in some ways, more of a valuable life lesson than one of photography. We will never fully understand the controversy of diversity, but we certainly can enjoy the debates it fosters. Like most of life, the outcome is already assigned by attitude. |
That is an awesome way to look at it, but I'm still keeping my big chart with the Friends & Enemies columns. I can't say that I've fealt contempt for anybody because of photos they've entered, and would suggest anybody that did seek some anger management help.
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05/06/2005 07:10:12 PM · #96 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
[quote=Barry] I hope I don't get anybody mad becuase I have asked that same question about using a tripod many times in this challenge. Why, Because lots of people should have. LOL But for the most part rate their images as 5's because I think effort is big.....especially when most of the similiar image look the same. (average)
Barry |
Barry, you've earned a spot in the 'enemies' column of the big chart on my wall! The only way you can make it up to me is to go back to every single photo you made a tripod comment on and replace that comment with "I love Slippy!" Now, get to work!
[quote=buzzmom]
LOL, Another enemy....Two years on the local School Board has prepared me for this day....Life is to short lets not fight over tripods:-)
Barry |
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05/07/2005 12:30:05 AM · #97 |
Originally posted by Barry:
[quote=Strikeslip] [quote=Barry] I hope I don't get anybody mad becuase I have asked that same question about using a tripod many times in this challenge. Why, Because lots of people should have. LOL But for the most part rate their images as 5's because I think effort is big.....especially when most of the similiar image look the same. (average)
Barry |
Barry, you've earned a spot in the 'enemies' column of the big chart on my wall! The only way you can make it up to me is to go back to every single photo you made a tripod comment on and replace that comment with "I love Slippy!" Now, get to work!
Originally posted by buzzmom:
LOL, Another enemy....Two years on the local School Board has prepared me for this day....Life is to short lets not fight over tripods:-)
Barry |
Well, I dunoo... I think maybe a photoshootout at high noon in the OKodak Coral. Tripods mandatory.
:-D
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