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 05/02/2005 04:55:32 AM · #1
I wonder about this as I'm voting.

Any thoughts? What's the difference between them?

05/02/2005 05:03:54 AM · #2
As far as I can see it they all are equally of merit

Capturing a mood, evoking a mood or a moody scene will all be scored equally by me.

Enjoy the photographs

Steve


05/02/2005 05:05:50 AM · #3
Originally posted by Tallbloke:
As far as I can see it they all are equally of merit

Capturing a mood, evoking a mood or a moody scene will all be scored equally by me.

Enjoy the photographs

Steve

Same with me
05/02/2005 05:06:16 AM · #4
Originally posted by mycelium:
I wonder about this as I'm voting.

Any thoughts? What's the difference between them?


Another question you should ask yourself about this challenge is How big of an influence is the title??. I like the images that I know what the mood is before reading the title.
 05/02/2005 05:07:54 AM · #5
yeah - i think tallblokes got it about right here - I'm all for that interpretation. Unfortunately for me I figured people would tend to go down the more restrictive approach of 'capturing' an 'emotion' per the description... as such I didn't submit a photo I took that was more evocative of a mood / moody itself. My shot is doing fairly well, but having looked at the other entries briefly the other picture (which is a much better photo) might have done better.
 05/02/2005 05:08:38 AM · #6
Originally posted by keegbow:
Another question you should ask yourself about this challenge is How big of an influence is the title??. I like the images that I know what the mood is before reading the title.


Hrm...so a picture is worth a thousand words, but you're going to look at the few words in a title to rate what the thousand words are trying to say?
:-)
It's a serious followup question, actually, but how then do you rate "untitled?"
 05/02/2005 05:21:53 AM · #7
Originally posted by robgo:
Originally posted by keegbow:
Another question you should ask yourself about this challenge is How big of an influence is the title??. I like the images that I know what the mood is before reading the title.


Hrm...so a picture is worth a thousand words, but you're going to look at the few words in a title to rate what the thousand words are trying to say?
:-)
It's a serious followup question, actually, but how then do you rate "untitled?"


I'm not looking for thousands of words to tell me what the emotion is and if it is untitled then i would presume the image itself would be strong enough to portray the emotion without a title.
 05/02/2005 06:19:13 AM · #8
Some of the titles are actually confusing me; I see the image, I think I understand the mood conveyed, I look at the title, and I don't agree with the mood the photographer has ascribed to his/her own image... What's a boy to do, but shake his head and soldier on?

Robt.
 05/02/2005 06:23:16 AM · #9
While the Challenge is called Moods, it has a description saying:
Take a picture that captures an emotion

"Captures" and not "Evokes" an emotion.
I have commented on all my "low votes" to explain them why I voted low and why I think it doesnt meet the challenge.

Silly me...
 05/02/2005 06:33:11 AM · #10
I personally was hoping that more people would capture moods/emotions a bit differently. Not that I think photographing people displaying emotions is easy - I'm fond of this myself - but to me, with the "mood" part as the title, this challenge was more about making the photograph itself capture a feeling than the subject of the photograph, if that makes any sense.

I was hoping to see vibrant red abstracts for anger, paper with water drops and smeared ink for sorrow, thunderclouds to convey melancholy - I don't see these things as not fitting the challenge at all. Certain sights can capture emotion as effectively, and sometimes moreso, than seeing a person's reaction to it. If an image makes you feel something, then to me it has captured the emotion very successfully.

And with "Moods" being the title... I think it would've been an excellent challenge for everyone to really try to set moods well and show the viewers emotion - without the human there to show them how they should react. I've done pretty well with emotive person shots in the past, but I chose not to go that route this time, in an attempt to communicate emotion on a different level. I wanted my photograph to say something to people when they looked at it - not to say "this person is sad" but instead simply "sadness". (I didn't pick sadness, by the way - this is an example.)

But that's just me. I won't be voting down humans, I'm just disappointed.

Message edited by author 2005-05-02 06:36:24.
 05/02/2005 06:50:03 AM · #11
I've looked at all the images and voted and commented on about 10 of them. Overall, I am finding the titles of the images to be almost confusing. I'm wishing they were title-less. I see moods, and emotions in the images which are not depicted in the titles. Some great images. Great photography tecniques, but mis-leading titles. So for this challenge, I am trying very hard not to look at titles, and simply comment on what the image says to me. Maybe I'm wrong in doing this, but that's how I'm handling this one.

It might be interesting to have a challege called "Title-less". Whatta think?
 05/02/2005 06:50:31 AM · #12
I sometimes wish that there was another button besides "This comment was helpful" if you catch my drift. I had one comment asking if my title was a mood? If my title has to explain my photo than why bother.
Oh well another lesson learned for a newbie.

Karen
05/02/2005 07:16:27 AM · #13
If a photo successfully "Evokes" an emotion then something must have been done right in the "Capture" to get that response. Could be calling the strike zone pretty tight don't you think? To not meet the challenge on this one would require being WAY off the mark. Of course this is JMO and is purely subjective as well. ;^)

Originally posted by Philos31:
While the Challenge is called Moods, it has a description saying:
Take a picture that captures an emotion

"Captures" and not "Evokes" an emotion.
I have commented on all my "low votes" to explain them why I voted low and why I think it doesnt meet the challenge.

Silly me...

05/02/2005 07:25:23 AM · #14
Hmmm...I can see this getting tricky. There are images here that capture and evoke an emotion. Some are done well, some not. There are images here that either evoke an emotion OR capture an emotion; some done well, some not. Then there images that do neither and are well done or not. Since evoking an emotion is an individual response, I can see scores all over the place here.

Good luck to all who entered!

d
 05/02/2005 08:15:39 AM · #15
It appears to be that "capturing a emotion" is not to be taken literally. How do you capture a emotion with a scenic photo? You can create one in the viewer but you have not captured one. I am so confused.
 05/02/2005 08:31:01 AM · #16
Originally posted by Philos31:
While the Challenge is called Moods, it has a description saying:
Take a picture that captures an emotion

"Captures" and not "Evokes" an emotion.
I have commented on all my "low votes" to explain them why I voted low and why I think it doesnt meet the challenge.

Silly me...


You gave me a 'low vote' & a comment. I think the comment was great, and you pretty much read my mind about some of the apprehensions I had about using the shot I did. But hey, I stand behind my shot, I like it. Just wanted to thank you for the comment, though it wasn't a gushing one at all, I think it's one of the best I've ever received in terms of effectively voicing your thoughts to me, and I value that. Unfortunately, I still have to add you to the big chart on my wall under the "enemies" column! (j/k) ;-)
 05/02/2005 09:17:03 AM · #17
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Unfortunately, I still have to add you to the big chart on my wall under the "enemies" column! (j/k) ;-)


Mind adding me to that list as well? I just want to belong in a list. Any list. Anybody's list. Please add me to the list. ;-)
 05/02/2005 09:48:54 AM · #18
I think the word "captures" is the key element in the challenge description...would have been a totally different challenge if it had said "create a mood"...then all the landscape images would apply. I am sorry but I am voting down most of them because they don't capture a mood in my opinion..animals and people are getting high votes...call me conventional even though I will deny it ; )
red
 05/02/2005 09:49:01 AM · #19
Originally posted by Strikeslip:


You gave me a 'low vote' & a comment. I think the comment was great, and you pretty much read my mind about some of the apprehensions I had about using the shot I did. But hey, I stand behind my shot, I like it. Just wanted to thank you for the comment, though it wasn't a gushing one at all, I think it's one of the best I've ever received in terms of effectively voicing your thoughts to me, and I value that. Unfortunately, I still have to add you to the big chart on my wall under the "enemies" column! (j/k) ;-)


YES! I'm on your list :-)

Don't worry, I don't vote as low as you think.
And yes, this is only my take on this Challenge, I wouldnt be surprised at all to see some of the photo's that I commented on scoring in the top 10, there where some real pretty ones.
 05/02/2005 09:49:07 AM · #20
the challenge specifically requested a photo that "captures an emotion."

to me, this is almost a polar opposite of a photo that tries to evoke an emotion.

another issue is that a photo that is supposed to "evoke" an emotion may not present the same emotional reaction in viewers. a gorgeous sunset, for example, may mean "contentment" to some and "boooooo-ring" to others. a shot of someone truly enjoying a gorgeous sunset actually demonstrates an emotional reaction that someone is having.
 05/02/2005 10:22:34 AM · #21
Putting 'Mood' and then 'Emotion' together in one challenge title and description opened this up to a wide interpretation (as usual) once again.

I think there are some interesting takes on how people interpreted the challenge - people shots, scenic shots, animal shots, etc... I don't think I've seen many that are way outside the requirements of this challenge. I'm finding this challenge fun trying to get inside the photographer's head, or state of mind, that was behind their entry.

Side note: One of the definitions of 'Capture' is "To succeed in preserving in lasting form"

Smile and keep having fun everyone! ;^)

Originally posted by fotoshootme:
I think the word "captures" is the key element in the challenge description...would have been a totally different challenge if it had said "create a mood"...then all the landscape images would apply. I am sorry but I am voting down most of them because they don't capture a mood in my opinion..animals and people are getting high votes...call me conventional even though I will deny it ; )
red

05/02/2005 11:02:15 AM · #22
I'm personally a bit annoyed with some of the responses to my entry.

I took some photos of my girlfriend and her younger sister. I thought they had decent moods





But I didn't submit them because every time I try a photo with a mood aspect I get comments to the effect "I don't seen any emotion" or "I don't see such and such mood represented". So instead of submitting one of these. I submitted one with a big smiley face on a non-human. I said, let me do the no-brainer one so that I can't be knocked for not having captured a mood.

Now I've gotten a bunch of comments "I don't see a mood". Has our society fallen so far that a smiling happy face no longer constitutes a mood?

???

I just really don't know what to do with DPCers' *lol*
 05/02/2005 11:11:01 AM · #23
Mood: A state of mind or emotion.

Emotion: A mental state that arises spontaneously rather than through conscious effort and is often accompanied by physiological changes; a feeling: the emotions of joy, sorrow, reverence, hate, and love.

Challenge: Take a picture that captures an emotion.

I have had to stop voting at this point just to make sure that I was voting correctly. I am having a hard time also with the Capturing vs. Evoking an emotion. I try very hard to vote on a consistant basis, but all of a sudden I am seeing pictures that are beautiful that are evoking my emotion. I think I am going to see what the consensus is for a while then start my voting process again.
05/02/2005 11:22:22 AM · #24
If you took a picture of something with a brain... you've captured a mood. It's not possible to not be in some sort of mood at anytime.

I don't see why people get so nit-picky, if somebody tried to make their photo for the challenge, and did a decent job, ie, the picture has a mood in it at all, captured or not, it should meet the challenge. Stop being so text book to hurt other people's scores.

ps: no I did not enter into this challenge.
 05/02/2005 11:28:58 AM · #25
Nothing like going with the flow - eh? Why wait for a "consensus", I don't think you'll find one, and even if you do you will have to decide between multiple camps most likely.

There is no correct/incorrect way to vote. Vote how you see fit based on your interpretation.

Originally posted by TDCollins:
...I think I am going to see what the consensus is for a while then start my voting process again.

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