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04/29/2005 10:23:16 AM · #26
Originally posted by notonline:

why not make an open challenge for members and 1 for non-members(unpaid)? This way it is broken down into 2 groups and everybody is happy.


I still think this may be the only way.
04/29/2005 10:26:24 AM · #27
I just do not think the problem is on the members side. I mean the non memebers do not have but maybe one challenge a week...so for sure they are going to enter if they can. And most members will enter the open challenge as well.

Maybe having a non member only will solve the problem. As well as a regular open challenge. Either way more and more people participating is a good thing in my book. I am sure an Open challenge a week and a non member challenge and a member challenge would work.
04/29/2005 10:26:58 AM · #28
there was a great discussion about some similar issues just a few weeks ago:

//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=199318

:)

Message edited by author 2005-04-29 11:23:06.
04/29/2005 10:30:14 AM · #29
Originally posted by muckpond:

there was a great discussion about some similar issues just a few weeks ago:

//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=199318&highlight=jmsetzler%20entries

:)


invalid entry....admin. have benn notified :(
04/29/2005 10:30:39 AM · #30
Originally posted by DustDevil:

I just do not think the problem is on the members side. I mean the non memebers do not have but maybe one challenge a week...so for sure they are going to enter if they can. And most members will enter the open challenge as well.

Maybe having a non member only will solve the problem. As well as a regular open challenge. Either way more and more people participating is a good thing in my book. I am sure an Open challenge a week and a non member challenge and a member challenge would work.


but then why do I pay to be a member??? your contradicting yourself and your membership. I pay to have open AND member challenges. All I was suggesting was to allow members to vote on members instead of an open challenge. Sorta like members open challenge with basic editing.
04/29/2005 10:30:55 AM · #31
If you restrict the amount of entries for a challenge, this will heavily work out in favour of those in a specific timezone.
04/29/2005 10:33:00 AM · #32
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

If you restrict the amount of entries for a challenge, this will heavily work out in favour of those in a specific timezone.


this is very true, sorry I didn't consider that when I made the suggestion.
04/29/2005 10:34:51 AM · #33
How about timezone specific challenges (run concurrently)?

(This may require additional coding since I don't think there is any info already collected for this in user profiles.)

Message edited by author 2005-04-29 10:36:14.
04/29/2005 10:37:06 AM · #34
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

How about timezone specific challenges (run concurrently)?

(This may require additional coding since I don't think there is any info already collected for this in user profiles.)


Thats a lot of work for little or no return.
04/29/2005 10:39:08 AM · #35
Originally posted by notonline:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

How about timezone specific challenges (run concurrently)?

(This may require additional coding since I don't think there is any info already collected for this in user profiles.)


Thats a lot of work for little or no return.


It's just one way of breaking up the ever increasing populace.
04/29/2005 10:39:11 AM · #36
Originally posted by notonline:

Originally posted by DustDevil:

I just do not think the problem is on the members side. I mean the non memebers do not have but maybe one challenge a week...so for sure they are going to enter if they can. And most members will enter the open challenge as well.

Maybe having a non member only will solve the problem. As well as a regular open challenge. Either way more and more people participating is a good thing in my book. I am sure an Open challenge a week and a non member challenge and a member challenge would work.


but then why do I pay to be a member??? your contradicting yourself and your membership. I pay to have open AND member challenges. All I was suggesting was to allow members to vote on members instead of an open challenge. Sorta like members open challenge with basic editing.


This is getting confusing. non member get to submit to open challenges. Members can do both. I understand that and that is why I did become a member. But since I am a member and paid to get that "service" if you can call it that. Letting submit to a open challenge and member challenge and but not a non member challenge I was simply saying then why in the heck get a membership.

If a non member gets an open challenge and a non member challenge they get 2 challenges. If a member gets a member only and an open challenge they would get 2 challenges a week..so why get a membership?

04/29/2005 10:43:46 AM · #37
DustDevil, no offence but your making my point for me. All I was saying is:
1. we have a member challenge.
2. we have an open challenge which is open for all.
3. make it so members have the same challenge as the open challenge so thats where our ballets/submissions go and we would be able to vote on those. should we have time then we can vote on the non-members challenge. Kinda like a perk to become a member.
04/29/2005 10:43:49 AM · #38
Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

If you restrict the amount of entries for a challenge, this will heavily work out in favour of those in a specific timezone.


how?

east costers get 3 more hours of daylight?

i dont understand, west coasters get to see the new challange at 9pm local time where i have to stay up till midnight

Message edited by author 2005-04-29 10:45:02.
04/29/2005 10:44:56 AM · #39
Originally posted by lemondster:

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

If you restrict the amount of entries for a challenge, this will heavily work out in favour of those in a specific timezone.


how?

east costers get 3 more hours of daylight?


Depends on how far north you are. In summer some parts of the world have 24 hrs of daylight.
04/29/2005 10:46:21 AM · #40
Originally posted by cpanaioti:



Depends on how far north you are. In summer some parts of the world have 24 hrs of daylight.


LOL....exactly its not FAIR

grrrrrr....
04/29/2005 10:47:10 AM · #41
Originally posted by lemondster:

Originally posted by BobsterLobster:

If you restrict the amount of entries for a challenge, this will heavily work out in favour of those in a specific timezone.


how?

east costers get 3 more hours of daylight?

i dont understand, west coasters get to see the new challange at 9pm local time where i have to stay up till midnight
Maybe I missundestand you. I am a bit quirky =). But I thought you were saying. Making a non member challenge only and only non members could submit. As the usual Member only and open challenges.

Thats why I was saying why would anyone want to be a member if non members could submit tot he same number of challenges.
04/29/2005 10:48:38 AM · #42
i think you quoted the wrong guy

Message edited by author 2005-04-29 10:50:31.
04/29/2005 10:49:39 AM · #43
Why is this even an issue?

You only have to vote for 20% of the entries for your vote to count. While I try to vote on every challenge I have entered and most of the ones I don't, I can't always vote on every image. When I miss the 100% voting, I at least make sure that my votes count by making 20%.

Dave
04/29/2005 10:50:13 AM · #44
what about splitting entries up by either by how long registerd or time zones and after voting has finished take the winners of all categorys and do a "best in show" vote of those entrys?

edit:spelling....they really need to get a spell checker just for me :o(

Message edited by author 2005-04-29 10:53:01.
04/29/2005 10:50:35 AM · #45
I think limiting entries is a bad idea. I think this would lead to more "why did you enter that" photo's just to enter the challenge. I've been registered to this site for 10 months now and just entered my first challenge as I felt I didn't have anything worthy of entering. I'm scoring middle of the road 4.9 and receiving great comments about my entry that will help me with photography skills in the future. Maybe people just need to ask themselves "self. Is this worth someone else's time to look and comment on? Would I be willing to score and comment on this photo if it were someone else̢۪s?"

It is hard to find the time to fairly judge 400+ photo's in a week between work, family, and trying to get out and take your own photos....
04/29/2005 10:50:46 AM · #46
Originally posted by lemondster:

i think you quoted the wrong guy


lol yea but I got it anyway.
04/29/2005 10:51:26 AM · #47
How about an average vote recieved limit. Say only people with an average vote of 5.000 could enter one challenge. Then make another challenge for people with an average below 5.0. Then only have under 5.0 twice a month. And have above 5.0 every week. This would cut down on entries as well as make people want to take better photos so they could enter more challenges.

Travis
04/29/2005 10:53:02 AM · #48
Originally posted by gppacecar:

Maybe people just need to ask themselves "self. Is this worth someone else's time to look and comment on? Would I be willing to score and comment on this photo if it were someone else̢۪s?"



I think that is the key.
04/29/2005 10:55:50 AM · #49
Originally posted by dsa157:

Why is this even an issue?

You only have to vote for 20% of the entries for your vote to count. While I try to vote on every challenge I have entered and most of the ones I don't, I can't always vote on every image. When I miss the 100% voting, I at least make sure that my votes count by making 20%.

Dave


Its not a big issue. But I for one would like to vote and comment on all the photo's that I vote on or view and by making it members open and non-members open it would allow me to comment on members and put 1 up on the paid subscription. Not everybody comments and I for one find them helpful and welcome. It may also increase the ammout of paid memberships on this site.
04/29/2005 11:04:39 AM · #50
Originally posted by rex:

I can possibly get shot for this but maybe only allow registered users so many open challenge entries a year. All the more reason to become a member.


This is a good idea, but I haven't become a member yet because I don't feel I am no where near as good as the photographers that are members. This gives me the chance to get better, with an open challenge a week.
I do like the idea of the open challenge having 6 ribbons, members 1,2,3. and a registered users 1,2,3.
Think it would be interesting.
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