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04/27/2005 04:04:26 PM · #26 |
in my world minimalism doesnt equal negitive space and my entry is getting hammered because it doenst have neg.space. i went by the description not the title. i followed the "guidelines"...i just dont get the voters...everyone wants to voice thier view about which way to go in a challenge and about how they view the challenge and about artist interpretation untill it comes down to voting....then voters vote not about what the challenge is about but what thier personal artistic interpretation of it is and be damned if your artistic interpretation is any different!
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04/27/2005 04:08:13 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Originally posted by Gordon:
The challenge topics and descriptions very rarely have much to do with each other. Looking for sensible relationships between the two is mostly fruitless, as it seems the people writing them don't seem to think it matters if they say one thing and then describe something entirely unrelated.... |
Minimalism (the title of this challenge) names an art movement in the context of the visual arts particularly, of which photography is not a small part. To use the term in the context of a photography challenge to refer to something as unrelated to it as the challenge description, has, effectively, prompted some to enter minimalist images, which will likely go unrecognized by those who chose to ignore both title and the context in which it appears, even if that entry conforms to the additional challenge description.
Those who submitted according to the desciption while ignoring the title, will have missed the opportunity to find out something about the history and motivation for a certain kind of 'seeing'.
Both sorts of entries now exist side by side, ensuring an inevitable confusion of premise and fact.
In my view, a great opportunity to learn and do something different for a change, particularly something which is still very much alive and relevant, has been completely lost. |
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Again, what you state is true but this does not apply to this challenge because it directs you to have the subject occupy a a very small amount of the real estate of the image size. This restriction inhibits the true description of minimalism per se. This is a case where the title was attached as a keyword and not as a style. To go with minimalism as it applies to art is to get voted down because then it must presented to adhere to the restriction of the subject being prominent yet not taking too much space in the image. |
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04/27/2005 04:13:17 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
Again, what you state is true but this does not apply to this challenge because it directs you to have the subject occupy a a very small amount of the real estate of the image size. This restriction inhibits the true description of minimalism per se. This is a case where the title was attached as a keyword and not as a style. To go with minimalism as it applies to art is to get voted down because then it must presented to adhere to the restriction of the subject being prominent yet not taking too much space in the image. |
I believe what Zeuszen is saying is that there are a number of entries that fit BOTH criteria, and that they may be not getting the credit they ought to because voters are ignoring the title for the description. An interesting point. In my vase, my image is scoring very well indeed and I believe it fits both definitions, so I donno...
Robt.
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04/27/2005 04:18:14 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by "bear_music":
Here's a challenge for y'all; find a BETTER title than "Minimalism" |
Hmmm...
"Minimalism (but not 'Minimalism')"
"Minisculeism"
"Tiny Bubbles Subjects"
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04/27/2005 09:21:45 PM · #30 |
Ok, I was disqaulified! I was unable to produce the original. The one time that I forget to make a copy!!! I know its not the best photo..but I was creative! Let me know what you guys think!
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04/27/2005 09:24:52 PM · #31 |
| Aw, I really loved that photo smoon. That was an awful quick DQ - sheesh! |
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04/27/2005 09:25:28 PM · #32 |
| I could be wrong about this, but I believe the original post might have just been trying to enlighten us about a type of photography and had nothing to do with the current challenge, nor were they trrying to reconcile the disparity between the description and the title of the challenge...... like I said, I could be wrong. |
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04/27/2005 09:41:26 PM · #33 |
isn't the background a screensaver or desktop image in windowsxp?
Message edited by author 2005-04-27 21:41:48. |
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04/27/2005 09:42:35 PM · #34 |
Minimalism was surely at least as strong in music (Glass, Reich, Ligeti, la la la) as in the visual arts, no?
As an artistic movement, it was not about the small, as such. Much of it, it seems to me, was about progression, usually by small steps. It parallels ideas of evolution, in that sense. By removing imposed historical ideas of resolution and progression, it attempted to develop a new aesthetic; with varying success. I think the winning photograph in this challenge will combine elements of the challenge details with an understanding, or an attempt at creating, a photographic approach to minimalist ideas. I could, however, be wrong. |
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04/27/2005 09:43:57 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by dragonlady:
isn't the background a screensaver or desktop image in windowsxp? |
Yeah, it is; but it's legal....
Robt.
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04/27/2005 10:14:41 PM · #36 |
| yes it is...but there's nothing against that! The photo is legal. I didnt do anything illeagle..but I didnt have my original copy. |
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04/27/2005 10:27:01 PM · #37 |
"Minimalism was surely at least as strong in music (Glass, Reich, Ligeti, la la la) as in the visual arts, no?" e301
Yes...... I would add John Cage to the list.
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"Minimalism (the title of this challenge) names an art movement in the context of the visual arts particularly, of which photography is not a small part. To use the term in the context of a photography challenge to refer to something as unrelated to it as the challenge description, has, effectively, prompted some to enter minimalist images, which will likely go unrecognized by those who chose to ignore both title and the context in which it appears, even if that entry conforms to the additional challenge description." zeuszen
"I think the winning photograph in this challenge will combine elements of the challenge details with an understanding, or an attempt at creating, a photographic approach to minimalist ideas." e301
I would agree with these explainations but an awareness of the art movement minimalism would have to be established to some degree prior to submitting. Then the connection between title and directions might be more obvious, as in Bear Music's explaination of his submission.
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04/27/2005 11:08:14 PM · #38 |
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