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04/25/2005 10:00:08 PM · #1

i currently run photoshop 7.0 and i am still learning what things do. what are the advantages of having yet another post processing software like neatimage? i have had several different programs and i like the photoshop alot...more bells and whistles than i can figure out. does neatimage offer the same things as photoshop 7.0 with extras? someone help me!!!!

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

04/25/2005 10:02:01 PM · #2

Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:

Neat Image is a plugin filter for Photoshop as well as a stand-alone noise reducing program. Photoshop has way more filters and editing capabilities - they are not the same thing, but they can work together.

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04/25/2005 10:05:34 PM · #3

ok...where can i get neatimage and about how much does it run? hubby is going to go nuts when i tell him i need something else for my photo habit! i can hear him now..." u havent even got in the top 100 yet and u need more money!"...lmaoooooooooooo

edit: is there somewhere free i can get it...maybe a free trial?

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GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

04/25/2005 10:10:23 PM · #4

There are other noise-reduction programs out there too. I just got one for Windows called Picture Cooler which is free. I'd go to cNet.com (aka Download.com) and search for noise reduction software.

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04/25/2005 10:10:56 PM · #5

Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:

You can use the stand-alone application for free. It's at neatimage.com

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

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04/25/2005 10:12:11 PM · #6

The free version will work in a lot of cases however you have no control over the quality of the resulting jpg.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

04/25/2005 10:13:58 PM · #7

Originally posted by mk:

Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:
ok...where can i get neatimage and about how much does it run? hubby is going to go nuts when i tell him i need something else for my photo habit! i can hear him now..." u havent even got in the top 100 yet and u need more money!"...lmaoooooooooooo

You can use the stand-alone application for free. It's at neatimage.com

The free NeatImage demo is a nice trial, but will only save at dismally poor quality. If you try it and like it, the plug-in version is well worth the investment. Because it's a plug-in and can be run as a filter, it's easy to run it on a part of an image using a selection. A nice way to avoid overly smooth areas where they are not wanted.

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

04/25/2005 10:20:24 PM · #8

ill be back in the morning to try to figure this out..ty all for the help...im sure ill have many more questions to come. good night

coolhar

04/25/2005 11:57:13 PM · #9

Another noise reduction program to consider is Noiseware by imagenomic.com. They have a free "community edition" available for download toward the bottom of this page: IMAGENOMIC downloads page

RulerZigzag

Nikon D750

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04/26/2005 12:01:52 AM · #10

I've been using Gimp for so long, and I would not filter the noise on it. I rather use Neatimage. The only problem with Neat Image is that most people don't purchase it and they get the Demo instead, and it saves photos at a low quality, but at the same time can save a photo.

colema19

Canon EOS-20D

04/26/2005 01:25:31 PM · #11

Other options in the category are Noise Ninja and Grain Surgery.

internerd2k

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04/26/2005 01:47:48 PM · #12

Here is a link that compares noise reduction software

//www.michaelalmond.com/Articles/noise.htm

This page is his conclusions on the software

//www.michaelalmond.com/Articles/noise_conc.htm

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aznym

Fujifilm X-T3

Fujifilm XF 23mm f/2 R WR

04/26/2005 02:26:20 PM · #13

It makes me ask the question why the thread is titled 'photoshop vs. neatimage'.
Also, it makes me ask why you even thought about it. What is that you are trying to achieve?

04/26/2005 04:39:23 PM · #14

Originally posted by xion:

It makes me ask the question why the thread is titled 'photoshop vs. neatimage'.
Also, it makes me ask why you even thought about it. What is that you are trying to achieve?

i have been reading comments made on other photos and neatimage is brought up ALOT! i thought that photoshop and neatimage were both post-processing software and i have photoshop 7.0 and am happy with it but i haven't been post-processing long enough to know much about any available software out there or what is the best. i wouldn't know about photoshop if a photographer friend of mine hadn't told me about it. I'm not sure what i am trying to achieve except to offer the best possiable photo i can for the voters/viewers and mostly myself. i have only entered one challenge(RPS) and that photo is taking a dive as we speak. i have alot to learn and only way i know to learn is to ask the perverbial questions "what and why" so please bear with me as i am sure u will see my name in alot of forums asking the same what and why questions. ;)

Kavey

Sigma 18-125mm f/3.5-5.6 DC for Canon

04/26/2005 04:44:58 PM · #15

Neatimage IS indeed post processing software but only has one purpose - noise reduction. Useful to reduce some of the strange noise patterns that come from scanning negatives or prints but also for images taken on digital cameras.

The most important thing with NI is NOT to overuse it - then you start losing not only noise but also detail and the image starts looking like it's been airbrushed or even like a painting. And of course there are times when noise can work very well.

Photoshop allows post processing in all kinds of areas including, at it's basic, contrast, colour balance, brightness, cropping, rotation. You can add gradient masks to only apply those affects to selected parts of the image. There are dodge and burn tools to darken and lighten areas. You have a clone tool. This is still a list of just the very basics. You can do SO much with Photoshop that it would take me an hour just to begin to list them in brief bullet form. It's very versatile and that's why it's so popular and so expensive.

If you are just beginning or don't think you'll need all of the features there are lots and lots of image processing software tools that are much much cheaper - there have been recommendations in the forums over the years - I don't recall all but you could look at Paint Shop Pro or Photoshop Elements (a cut down version of Photoshop). I'm sure others can recommend more.

aznym

Fujifilm X-T3

Fujifilm XF 23mm f/2 R WR

04/26/2005 04:48:07 PM · #16

You are most welcome to ask as many questions as you like.
NeatImage is something some people use on all their images, and something some people use when they feel they need to get rid of the noise, because they are uncomfortable with the image. Some people never touch it. I have entered 53 challenges here and I have a lot of images in my portfolio. But there won't be more than 3 images that I have used NeatImage. That's my approach and that doesn't make me right. The point is, it's not something you need unless you need to save an image. Forget the voters and viewes for a while and do things as you like. If someone suggests NeatImage, ask yourself why you'd want to do that. If you are doing it for yourself you'd be happy. Comments will help you a lot, but using NeatImage is not making you a better photograpger, but making you produce images that are more acceptable to a group of people who prefer a coat of honey over visual communication.

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04/26/2005 04:52:40 PM · #17

ok...what do u mean by "unless u need to save an image"? and my second one is...noise- is that when the photo looks as if it has static in it? like a tv channel not quite tuned in?

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Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

04/26/2005 04:56:31 PM · #18

Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:

Loosely speaking, "noise" is the digital equivalent of "grain" in film images. Neat Image allows you to smooth this out and make it less noticeable. Taken to extremes, it smooths out tonal gradations and produces a "plastic" effect that's very unnatural but sometimes very effective graphically.

Xero makes a plugin called "supersmoother" that works a lot like Neat Image and, last time I saw, was free. I'll see if I can dig it up.

Robt.

//www.xero-graphics.co.uk/ , free plugins, supersmoother is in set 2. I have all of these, used to use supersmooth before I got Neat Image, and still use mystifier, rarely use any of the others.

R.

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