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Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

04/21/2005 04:06:04 PM · #1

I just found this the other day and i am curious what do you guys use on this setting? this is if you ever touched this.... What is the best setting or this doesn't really matter?

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

04/21/2005 04:14:09 PM · #2

View - Proof Setup - Custom..
Profile
sRGB IE61966-2.1

That just makes the color space a standardized RGB and helps, especially to proof your colors when printing & just to make sure you are seeing what others will.

Guess if it's critical, use it. I forget most of the time and have been OK without it (so far).

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

04/21/2005 04:17:38 PM · #3

Originally posted by BradP:

What about the intent? what setting and do i check the box use black point compensation?

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

04/21/2005 04:21:41 PM · #4

Originally posted by Discraft:

What about the intent? what setting and do i check the box use black point compensation?

I've always left them at default, which is Relative Colorimetric and Use Black Point Compensation checked.
?
Maybe someone else can explain the uses better?
I just remember having an issue with a DPCPrint and that was what was suggested to do.

Message edited by author 2005-04-21 16:22:09.

04/21/2005 06:43:25 PM · #5

bump

04/21/2005 07:17:11 PM · #6

Why do you care about this setting?

04/21/2005 07:32:56 PM · #7

Originally posted by dwoolridge:

Why do you care about this setting?

Because it seems to make a diference on the photos... i tried to change it when i had a photo opened at it changed the colors of the photo... now it should make something diferent but i really don't know why it makes it diferent.

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

04/21/2005 09:25:18 PM · #8

Originally posted by Discraft:

The most common usage for proofing is to get a sort of "preview" of what your image might look like when printed using the corresponding printer profile. Accuracy of the profile is critical, but calibration of your hardware (monitor) is paramount. Some settings would allow you to preview what the image might look like on a (generic) mac or pc.

Your lab might provide you with a profile, which you can use for this purpose, although you should find out if they require the image converted to the printer profile (or something else, like sRGB or AdobeRGB) first or if they (lab/printer) can deal with color space/profile conversions automatically.

Ultimately, the goal is reduce some of the unknowns, avoid big surprises, and give you output that is relatively color accurate.

When preparing the image, this is usually the last step, since you will likely make final color/tonal adjustments based on the proofing. If, for example, bright, deep reds looks a little too saturated or unusual clipping occurs, you can make the necessary edits to correct and produce a pleasing final (printed) result.

BradP's usage is unusual and I really wouldn't recommend it. It can make sense in some contexts, but I would generally avoid it unless you have a firm grasp of color management and/or soft proofing. Stick to the basics and you'll be happier (in the short-term anyway).

Oh, and read this book for the real deal on the subject: Real World Color Management

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

04/21/2005 09:33:34 PM · #9

Reason I suggested that:
DPCPrints Forum Hits
Was also what was recommended by them on an issue where I was seeing something different than what got in a print.
I do agree monitor calibration is probably more critical than anything lese.

04/21/2005 10:16:55 PM · #10

Originally posted by dwoolridge:

Originally posted by Discraft:

Because it seems to make a diference on the photos... i tried to change it when i had a photo opened at it changed the colors of the photo... now it should make something diferent but i really don't know why it makes it diferent.

The most common usage for proofing is to get a sort of "preview" of what your image might look like when printed using the corresponding printer profile. Accuracy of the profile is critical, but calibration of your hardware (monitor) is paramount. Some settings would allow you to preview what the image might look like on a (generic) mac or pc.

Your lab might provide you with a profile, which you can use for this purpose, although you should find out if they require the image converted to the printer profile (or something else, like sRGB or AdobeRGB) first or if they (lab/printer) can deal with color space/profile conversions automatically.

Ultimately, the goal is reduce some of the unknowns, avoid big surprises, and give you output that is relatively color accurate.

When preparing the image, this is usually the last step, since you will likely make final color/tonal adjustments based on the proofing. If, for example, bright, deep reds looks a little too saturated or unusual clipping occurs, you can make the necessary edits to correct and produce a pleasing final (printed) result.

BradP's usage is unusual and I really wouldn't recommend it. It can make sense in some contexts, but I would generally avoid it unless you have a firm grasp of color management and/or soft proofing. Stick to the basics and you'll be happier (in the short-term anyway).

Oh, and read this book for the real deal on the subject: Real World Color Management

And what are the basics?

04/22/2005 01:14:54 AM · #11

Originally posted by BradP:

Reason I suggested that:
DPCPrints Forum Hits

That's a lot of stuff to read. The first couple of hits didn't seem to match your suggestion. I have recommended created such a proofing entry (call it "web') in the past, but that assumes one knows the implications (having to convert the sRGB before publishing).

Originally posted by BradP:

Was also what was recommended by them on an issue where I was seeing something different than what got in a print.

I guess if dpcprints is your target, then keeping every sRGB is what they want (mostly because it simplifies things for them).

Message edited by author 2005-04-22 01:15:07.