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04/16/2005 03:10:46 AM · #26
Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

TTRL was more philosophical and poetic.


What does Thin Red Line have in common with American Beauty and Million Doller Hotel?
04/16/2005 03:13:27 AM · #27
Apocolypse now is basially a movie about symbolism. How we are basically at war with ourselves everyday, soldiers had to stay strong or otherwise they would go insane. I was an EMT for 3 years and after seeing the Horror, the Horror it sure rubs off on you in a bad way.
04/16/2005 03:18:37 AM · #28
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by RulerZigzag:

TTRL was more philosophical and poetic.


What does Thin Red Line have in common with American Beauty and Million Doller Hotel?


TTRL was directed very strange, and not how most war movies are. It showed cutscenes of all forms of life and shots of the beauty of them and then made you really think. Its a thinking man's movie. What makes us evil, what makes us good? and the direction of the film is done in a symbolic way. found this movie to be a feast for the eyes, a visual poem. It was absolutely thrilling to see the amazing shots Malick used to convey this remarkable film.

What do you think about the cinematography?

What other films have you discovered with cinematography on par with The Thin Red Line?



Message edited by author 2005-04-16 03:21:05.
04/16/2005 03:57:38 AM · #29
I'm not talking filmography or cinematography though there may also be strong similarities there as well. Screenplay structure. What is it about those three movies in particular that are basically the same?

All three movies start and end with the narative of a dead person.
04/16/2005 05:41:22 AM · #30
i personally arent real keen on war movies but i loved Band Of Brothers. All 6 discs, not a dry eye in my house by the end of that
04/16/2005 07:46:09 AM · #31

In regard to films of the Vietnam war it should be mentioned that - The Green Berets with John Wayne (1968), exemplified and summerized a view of patriotic pro war sentiment. The Deer Hunter was the first film to present a divergent view of the war - Appocalypse Now is is truly a masterpiece, and as Bear Music stated "transcends". I do like both Full Metal Jacket and Platoon, each have the necessary details & realism. Some very good pictures have been mentioned. Other war films mentioned are very good and along with Bridge Over the River Kwai, I'd like to mention the WWII prison camp film The Great Escape w/Steve McQueen and the Manchurian Candidate (actually both versions). All good war film presents some kind of anti-war slant - one of the best I haver ever seen is the West German film The Bridge.

04/16/2005 09:22:03 AM · #32
Oh - one I forgot, somehow, that is probably one of the most powerful war films is Das Boot. If you have not seen this then I would highly recommend doing so.

Mike

04/16/2005 10:33:10 AM · #33
Originally posted by pawdrix:

Full Metal Jacket is the best of the two.


Yup...having been in "The Suck" for 15 years I think this is my all time favorite.

Heatbreak Ridge depicted the Officer corps pretty well too. (sorry if there are any zeros in here...but I ran in to too many of those like that kiss azz supply officer in my time in).
04/16/2005 11:25:43 AM · #34
Born on the Fourth of July and Coming Home deserve to be mentioned in any discussion of Vietnam War movies.

But I think Apocalypse Now stands head and shoulders above the rest. By being "surreal" it was a little distanced from the actual gritty details of war and therefore able to reach a far wider audience with it message about the insanity of war. I haven't seen the "redux", what's it like?
04/16/2005 11:37:19 AM · #35
Schindler's List is my favorite War movie. Each shot of that film was just perfect and moving. but to answer the original question, Apocalypse Now is better to me.
04/16/2005 11:38:32 AM · #36
Deer hunter is one powerful movie.
A.N. is also excellent, but I didn't like the Marlon Brando part as much as the leadin.

I loved Platoon, Saving Private Ryan, and FMJ.

I seem to recall really liking Hamburger Hill for similar reasons, but I don't remember the movie too well.

I just missed the vietnam draft, they ended just before my induction year. I had a good lottery number too. If platoon was any indication of reality, I would not have survived in the jungles, much less the war.
04/16/2005 12:18:44 PM · #37
Originally posted by coolhar:

Born on the Fourth of July and Coming Home deserve to be mentioned in any discussion of Vietnam War movies.

But I think Apocalypse Now stands head and shoulders above the rest. By being "surreal" it was a little distanced from the actual gritty details of war and therefore able to reach a far wider audience with it message about the insanity of war. I haven't seen the "redux", what's it like?


In Redux they reinserted a substantial amount of footage that had been cut from the threatrical release. Didn't do the movie any favors, IMO.

Robt.

Oh yeah, Mike Owens mentioned Das Boot; one of my personal top 10 movies of all time. Unbelievably good film.
04/16/2005 12:44:24 PM · #38
I also enjoyed "Das Boot", "Apocalypse Now" and the very chilling "Killing Fields". My all time favorite dark novel is "Heart of Darkness", but once was enough. Another, though somewhat dated excellent film is "The Enemy Below", starring Robert Mitchum and Kurt Jurgens. Having spent several years aboard the boats, "Das Boot" takes the prize for realism.
Walken's role in "Deer Hunter" was also very chilling.
04/16/2005 12:56:38 PM · #39
Deer Hunter is one of my all-time favorite movies. another favorite war movie is The Guns of Navarone.
04/16/2005 02:30:04 PM · #40
Another movie that explores the absurdity of war is Anzio with Robert Mitchum.
04/16/2005 02:49:35 PM · #41
Unlike any other movie I ever saw, "Deer Hunter" affected me for days after I saw it in the theater in November 1979. It is a powerful movie, well-made and gripping, and I've never watched it again. (my version of living out "...one shot..."?) "Apocalypse Now" is gruesomely entertaining, and I watch it every year or two. It has a point as others above have mentioned, and it's great film-making, too. If you haven't seen one of the documentaries (full or mini) on the making of AN, you should watch them - very informative - the shoot was almost as surreal as the film.

Better film? "Deer Hunter" IMHO
My favorite between the two? "Apocalypse Now"
04/16/2005 03:11:02 PM · #42
Originally posted by wkmen:

Unlike any other movie I ever saw, "Deer Hunter" affected me for days after I saw it in the theater in November 1979. It is a powerful movie, well-made and gripping, and I've never watched it again. (my version of living out "...one shot..."?) "Apocalypse Now" is gruesomely entertaining, and I watch it every year or two. It has a point as others above have mentioned, and it's great film-making, too. If you haven't seen one of the documentaries (full or mini) on the making of AN, you should watch them - very informative - the shoot was almost as surreal as the film.

Better film? "Deer Hunter" IMHO
My favorite between the two? "Apocalypse Now"


I would definatly say that Deer Hunter disturbed me more.
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