Abandoned Building, Framing/Cropping Advice...?

04/12/2005 03:04:00 PM · #1

Hi,

On my ramble to find interesting abandoned buildings I found this old store-room/changing room. I am not happy with the framing of the original or the crop. Anyone got any advice?

Thanks,
Paula

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(A)Original saved for web, (B)After crop and saturate.

(A)

(B)

(Note: My entry is very different from this shot.)

Message edited by author 2005-04-12 15:10:23.

04/12/2005 03:20:07 PM · #2

Hey Paula,

I like both shots actually,
My advice on the crop would be to stick with a common aspect ratio as much as possible. On your cropped version you are at an odd size for printing and framing. (640x584) It can still be printed and framed, but the cost can be much higher. You might open it up to a 640 x 640 square if you like that crop. A square is also custom, by-the-way, but much easier to find mattings and frames for.

04/12/2005 03:22:15 PM · #3

Thanks Gringo!

Do you think that chopping off the stair and bottom of the rail is acceptable?

Originally posted by Gringo:

04/12/2005 03:26:35 PM · #4

Hmmm, I think I would give it a full "Three" stairs if you can. 3's and 5's seem to work better for most people. Don't be afraid to clone out the bar on the bottom.

04/12/2005 03:28:38 PM · #5

cool, ties in with fibonnaci numbers!

I think I'll try the cloning idea. Thank you.

Originally posted by Gringo:

Hmmm, I think I would give it a full "Three" stairs if you can. 3's and 5's seem to work better for most people. Don't be afraid to clone out the bar on the bottom.

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04/12/2005 03:37:11 PM · #6

I like the photo and you've gotten good feedback on cropping, etc...however, I don't think a photo of this nature will do very well in the 'Abandoned Buildings' challenge. It doesn't look very "abandoned". Just a thought. Keep smiling! ;^)

04/12/2005 03:38:05 PM · #7

we suould never be without our fibonnaci numbers! (I think).

Can I chop one up as an example and post it here Paula?

04/12/2005 03:42:31 PM · #8

Originally posted by Gringo:

we suould never be without our fibonnaci numbers! (I think).

Can I chop one up as an example and post it here Paula?

Go ahead...

04/12/2005 03:45:28 PM · #9

The purists might not care for this version.
(I changed aspect ratios, altered distortion and cloned the bar out)

04/12/2005 03:52:52 PM · #10

for all those who fall as short as I do on my "Fibonacci Numbers" this should help you get up to speed;
:P

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04/12/2005 04:01:10 PM · #11

Had a bit of an editing frenzy!....

#1 has cloning to remove the whole lower rail, some wall spots, and a small man. crop as suggested.

#2 has some v amateur dodge and burn on the sky, suggested 3-step crop, and a border. messed with sat and did a 70% sharpen, too.

#1

04/12/2005 04:03:23 PM · #12

Originally posted by Gringo:

The purists might not care for this version.
(I changed aspect ratios, altered distortion and cloned the bar out)

I think the square crop works well

04/12/2005 04:04:34 PM · #13

Ugh! You need the rail!

Hahahah! It acts as the leadline to pull the viewer to the center.

04/12/2005 04:07:10 PM · #14

Ok! #1 is going backwards!

I'm happy with #2 thou.

04/12/2005 04:07:56 PM · #15

Do you like the "Black" border?

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04/12/2005 04:11:32 PM · #16

Originally posted by Gringo:

Do you like the "Black" border?

The white border looks better. My black border is prob'ly too wide as well.

Do you think a shot with a border can influence the psychology of the voter? I think it might have a subconscious effect.
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04/12/2005 04:14:32 PM · #17

Originally posted by PollyBean:

Isn't this a "Basic Editing" challenge? If so, no cloning, dodging, burning.

04/12/2005 04:14:41 PM · #18

I know "I" vote on everything the artist includes in the entry.
If I like the border, good. But if I don't it could drop the score. The same goes for the title. I would not have a border if I wasn't sure about it.

04/12/2005 04:16:47 PM · #19

Originally posted by northrop3:

Isn't this a "Basic Editing" challenge? If so, no cloning, dodging, burning.

I'm not entering this shot. I just wanted some advice about the framing/cropping of this pic. (Thanks gringo!)

Paula

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04/12/2005 04:20:54 PM · #20

Originally posted by Gringo:

I judge on every aspect of the image, meeting challenge, technical aspects, wow factor. I try to be consistent and fair in my voting style.

Sometimes when I see a great shot that has a border it seems as if the photographer knows it's great, and is ready to post it for prints!
On the other hand, there are shots that have dodgy borders that take away from the overall quality.

04/12/2005 04:27:04 PM · #21

Originally posted by PollyBean:

(Thanks gringo!)

Paula

Twas my pleasure. I like the shot. But I think you should keep the border on the ...Light and airy side. You don't want the border to over-power the picture.

I hope my opinions gave you some ideas to work with.

Have a great day Paula!

(And good luck in the abandoned challenge. I don't think I have a chance against some of the buildings you have to shoot there in Ireland).

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04/12/2005 04:38:05 PM · #22

Originally posted by Gringo:

Twas my pleasure. I like the shot. But I think you should keep the border on the ...Light and airy side. You don't want the border to over-power the picture.

I think I'll leave the borders til my stuff improves a bit!

Originally posted by Gringo:

I hope my opinions gave you some ideas to work with.

Sure did!

Originally posted by Gringo:

Have a great day Paula!

Originally posted by Gringo:

(And good luck in the abandoned challenge. I don't think I have a chance against some of the buildings you have to shoot there in Ireland).

You'd be surprised how difficult it is to find an abandoned building- the housing market has every loon with a shed converting it into a "muse" or apartment!

Thanks again!

Message edited by author 2005-04-12 16:38:47.

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04/12/2005 05:38:33 PM · #23

Hi, that's a very nice shot! My quick take on cropping would be to center the interest a bit--it seemed a bit "right-heavy" to me. I ended up cropping-out the neat little curly thing on the end of the hand-rail, which is a shame; but it leaves an image with mostly straight lines which I personally like. (I put my version at
//jbpc.ucsd.edu/~jbordner/165784-crop.jpg . Sorry, I'm a newbie here and haven't figured out how to post thumb-nailed pictures yet. :-} )

James