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03/28/2005 02:12:47 PM · #26 |
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03/28/2005 02:16:52 PM · #27 |
| Mama don't know everything - I vote for the kids' "pic" too. How old are they? |
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03/28/2005 02:58:51 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by nova:
Mama don't know everything - I vote for the kids' "pic" too. How old are they? |
One at 12 (thinks he's 17!), another at 10, and one (non-voting ) not quite 3.
Thanks for the vote for the kids. I can see my choice was the wrong one, but it's easier to take (I think!) telling the kids I should have used the one they liked rather than telling my wife she was right. ;^)
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03/29/2005 07:25:47 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
The kids were right. Both the other pictures are "busy" and don't really emphasize the subject, a cardinal sin in object-oriented stock photography. However, the clothespins could have been cropped (actually, "framed" is the correct word) better.
Robt. |
Hey Robert (and anyone else with thoughts on this)...
Aside from the "Home voting dispute...", I know next year will probably bring a 'Stock Photo III' challenge and I would like to clarify something that crossed my mind on the way to work this morning about your comment above (strange how the mind wanders sometimes!).
You mentioned that two of the three photos posted were "busy" and "don't emphasize the subject". The winners of the 'Stock Photo' challenge were landscapes and not really an isolated subject. I love all three of them as they are gorgeous photos, but how would you interpret them as stock photos based on your previous observations to "busy" photos?
I'm not trying to take anything away from the results...just trying to continue my photography education. Honest! ;^) Thanks.
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03/29/2005 09:45:30 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
You mentioned that two of the three photos posted were "busy" and "don't emphasize the subject". The winners of the 'Stock Photo' challenge were landscapes and not really an isolated subject. I love all three of them as they are gorgeous photos, but how would you interpret them as stock photos based on your previous observations to "busy" photos? |
Landscapes don't usually have a focal object -- the wide expanse is the subject -- and are a "hard sell" to a stock agency; you need a really outstanding landscape (or sunset) to get it accepted or sold.
But your other two photos are of specific objects (mailbox, pinecone) in a somewhat cluttered or busy environment. They would pronbably "do better" as stock of they were more isolated and prominent in the image.
With your mailbox, you could either mask out and eliminate the "extra" elements, or maybe fade everything else way back (more a "print" technique than "stock" preparation) so it stands out better -- right now it kind of blends into the overall picture and doesn't jump off the screen.
BTW: Instead of just asking their opinion (and giving them the chance to say "I told you so!") you should hand them the camera and challenge them to do better.
Message edited by author 2005-03-29 09:46:37. |
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03/29/2005 10:24:58 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
BTW: Instead of just asking their opinion (and giving them the chance to say "I told you so!") you should hand them the camera and challenge them to do better. |
;^) Working on it - we have more cameras in the house than I can count right now! Thanks for the feedback on "stock" photo philosophy, much appreciated.
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03/29/2005 10:53:58 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
BTW: Instead of just asking their opinion (and giving them the chance to say "I told you so!") you should hand them the camera and challenge them to do better. |
;^) Working on it - we have more cameras in the house than I can count right now! Thanks for the feedback on "stock" photo philosophy, much appreciated. |
You're welcome. I'm just a beginner at it myself ... but actually submitting some stock photos has made me consider the issues more. The things that do best seem to have:
-clearly defined subject
-good lighting/contrast
-bright but not over-saturated colors
-sharp focus (unless clearly intentionally and appropriately soft)
-Model-released photos of people
I look forward to seeing your kids' stuff! |
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03/30/2005 03:21:43 AM · #33 |
| The kids definitely. Then then the Missus. We can be biased with our own pictures. |
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03/30/2005 03:34:10 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by bear_music:
The kids were right. Both the other pictures are "busy" and don't really emphasize the subject, a cardinal sin in object-oriented stock photography. However, the clothespins could have been cropped (actually, "framed" is the correct word) better.
Robt. |
Hey Robert (and anyone else with thoughts on this)...
Aside from the "Home voting dispute...", I know next year will probably bring a 'Stock Photo III' challenge and I would like to clarify something that crossed my mind on the way to work this morning about your comment above (strange how the mind wanders sometimes!).
You mentioned that two of the three photos posted were "busy" and "don't emphasize the subject". The winners of the 'Stock Photo' challenge were landscapes and not really an isolated subject. I love all three of them as they are gorgeous photos, but how would you interpret them as stock photos based on your previous observations to "busy" photos?
I'm not trying to take anything away from the results...just trying to continue my photography education. Honest! ;^) Thanks. |
The key here is the phrase "object-oriented stock photography"; when you are shooting "things" for stock, they need to stand out from their surround. This is pretty fundamental, really. Someone does a keyword search for "birdhouses", he wants a picture of a birdhouse, right? he wants that birdhouse, usually, to be the thing that stands out. Granted, some of these birdhouse-image buyers may be looking for a birdhouse within an envionoment, but even then you'd sort of want it to separate a bit more than what we see here. The clothespins are clean & simple and effective as object-oriented stock photography.
Robt.
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