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03/28/2005 03:24:18 AM · #1
Has everyone noticed what camera was used for the red ribbon in stock?



Like they say; it ain't the camera, it's the photographer. Congratulations on a great shot!

Robt.
03/28/2005 03:35:37 AM · #2
This looks somehow like pncowley's extended portfolio :)
I completely agree Robt. We've seen some great ribbons here with p&s cams.
03/28/2005 09:49:58 AM · #3
Originally posted by bear_music:

Like they say; it ain't the camera, it's the photographer. Congratulations on a great shot!

Robt.

Also, read the notes to check out the extensive Photoshopping it took to achieve this!
03/28/2005 09:56:40 AM · #4
Two other non-DSLR images finished in the top ten-

5th place

8th place
03/28/2005 10:19:38 AM · #5
Originally posted by coolhar:

Two other non-DSLR images finished in the top ten-

5th place

8th place


5th place is a prosumer, which as far as I'm concerned is more or less on a level playing field witht he dSLRs (I have to feel that way, I use one) but 9th is also a P&S, which is heartening.

Robt.
03/28/2005 11:36:24 AM · #6
Originally posted by bear_music:


...but 9th is also a P&S, which is heartening.

Robt.


Heartening, indeed.
I'm off today, think I'll go out!
03/28/2005 11:41:03 AM · #7
Thanks for pointing that out Robt. It just goes to show that a good camera can't make the photographer shoot better pictures. You need skills.

Message edited by author 2005-03-28 13:02:34.
03/28/2005 12:40:21 PM · #8
Agreed. It has ALWAYS been the photographer and not the camera. Just look at jjbeguin.

Good equipment just allows great photographers more ease and flexibility in their photography.

NOTE:
I heard that the good looking, smart and incredibly gifted photo artist with the great personality who won the blue ribbon in the Ansel Adams challenge used a point and shoot camera for his amazing entry.
03/28/2005 01:28:53 PM · #9
Not only camera, person, but location. It usually plays a part.
03/28/2005 03:32:57 PM · #10
Originally posted by stdavidson:

I heard that the good looking, smart and incredibly gifted photo artist with the great personality who won the blue ribbon in the Ansel Adams challenge used a point and shoot camera for his amazing entry.

not to take anything away from your wonderful work, but i would consider your camera a bit more than a p&s ;-)
03/28/2005 05:58:46 PM · #11
Originally posted by skiprow:

Originally posted by stdavidson:

I heard that the good looking, smart and incredibly gifted photo artist with the great personality who won the blue ribbon in the Ansel Adams challenge used a point and shoot camera for his amazing entry.

not to take anything away from your wonderful work, but i would consider your camera a bit more than a p&s ;-)


I thought digitals were basically broken into two camps - SLRs and point and shoot. My camera is not an SLR and doesn't even have interchangeable lenses which pretty much makes it point and shoot.

However... I was referring to that super stud AA blue ribbon winner guy who I'm shocked isn't hit on by more DPC women. He's a major catch and they should go after him pronto before he gets snapped up by someone else. I was refering to HIS camera.


03/28/2005 06:14:58 PM · #12
Originally posted by stdavidson:

I thought digitals were basically broken into two camps - SLRs and point and shoot. My camera is not an SLR and doesn't even have interchangeable lenses which pretty much makes it point and shoot.


that is certainly a valid way of looking at it, but i tend to divide them by whether or not you can actually make manual settings (iso, av, tv, etc), or whether you are stuck with preset auto-sport-macro-landscape-portrait settings.

Originally posted by stdavidson:

However... I was referring to that super stud AA blue ribbon winner guy who I'm shocked isn't hit on by more DPC women. He's a major catch and they should go after him pronto before he gets snapped up by someone else. I was refering to HIS camera.

can't help you here, except to suggest that if your current equipment is helping you, you might consider upgrading ;-)
03/28/2005 06:36:23 PM · #13
My cam is considered a P & S. But I think that term is very underrated because my camera is always in Manual mode. I have Single AF as well as continuous multi burst, only 3 shots though. I use auto for snapshots. I have a nightvision which gives me the ability to shootin in pitch blackness, however high noise and greenish tint pushes me away from using that feauture. It is sort of like Nightvision goggles. I also have a scene mode which gives me 7 preset settings for specific conditions. It has interchangable lenses too. I guess it's a borderline cam. Savin up for my Nikon, thats when I get serious.
03/28/2005 06:38:03 PM · #14
I've been called down for this in the past but I'll throw it out there again. I like to think of digital cameras as falling into 3 groups- DSLRs, prosumers, and point & shoots.

But just last week Gordon called the 20D (and therefore presumably the 10D, Rebel and XT) prosumer, so what do I know.

But I think I was technically correct when I said non-DSLR in my earlier post. Doesn't really matter all that much, just labels.
03/28/2005 07:13:01 PM · #15
Here's a question.

Would it have been harder to capture that shot with a DSLR?

I'm honestly trying to figure that one out but not about that image in particular, across the board though?
03/28/2005 07:33:31 PM · #16
Originally posted by pawdrix:

Here's a question.

Would it have been harder to capture that shot with a DSLR?

I'm honestly trying to figure that one out but not about that image in particular, across the board though?


Harder for someone who was used to shooting with a DSLR? Probably not.

Harder for someone who was used to shooting with a non-DSLR? Perhaps.

There is at least one additional variable the photog must deal in the selection of which lens to put on that DSLR, so, I guess it is harder.
03/28/2005 07:41:30 PM · #17
Originally posted by faidoi:

Not only camera, person, but location. It usually plays a part.


Thats exactly what I was going to say. First thing I thought of when I saw those photos.
03/28/2005 07:48:49 PM · #18
Originally posted by Riggs:

Originally posted by faidoi:

Not only camera, person, but location. It usually plays a part.


Thats exactly what I was going to say. First thing I thought of when I saw those photos.


Hehehe, yep.... doesn't matter what form of camera you've got, it's impossible to shoot desert canyons with a backdrop of snowy moutains ANYWHERE near me :).

Also, not to detract from jjbegin (one of my favourite photogs here) or yourself Mr Davidson (you've had a pretty nice run of form yourself :P), but neither the f717 or 828 are in the same ballpark as a point and shoot. The f828 for example actually costs more money than my dSLR down here in Australia. I (along with a couple of others in this thread, and probably most people) tend to think of a point and shoot as being precisely that, a camera where you a limited to composing the shot, and clicking the shutter... the two aforementioned cameras have a raft of manual options, not to mention a very capable carl zeiss lens.

Still, I think the point of this thread is pretty valid, and encouraging to the point and shooters, that's one amazing photo, taken with a fairly budget camera.

Message edited by author 2005-03-28 19:50:06.
03/28/2005 07:59:00 PM · #19
As far as I'm concerned, a point 'n shoot is a little, flat, rectangular camera with viewfinder that you can slip in a pocket. A dSLR is any digital camera with interchangeable lenses (unless somebody makes digital, high-end rangefinder camera like the old Leicas and Contaxes), and a camera like mine or Davidson's is a "prosumer" with most of the attributes of a dSLR except lens interchangeability.

I don't feel "handicapped" by my camera except in the sense that I can't shoot extreme wide-angle or telephoto with any great degree of optical precision, and I rarely desire to do these things, and also the shutter lag on prosumers is so bad I can't reliably shoot action shots, another thing I rarely attempt anyway.

Robt.
03/28/2005 08:45:20 PM · #20
I just love this shot, it is my intention to visit this place someday. There are times when I've gotten great results from my smaller p & s camera.
03/28/2005 10:21:07 PM · #21
Originally posted by bear_music:

As far as I'm concerned, a point 'n shoot is a little, flat, rectangular camera with viewfinder that you can slip in a pocket. A dSLR is any digital camera with interchangeable lenses (unless somebody makes digital, high-end rangefinder camera like the old Leicas and Contaxes), and a camera like mine or Davidson's is a "prosumer" with most of the attributes of a dSLR except lens interchangeability.

I don't feel "handicapped" by my camera except in the sense that I can't shoot extreme wide-angle or telephoto with any great degree of optical precision, and I rarely desire to do these things, and also the shutter lag on prosumers is so bad I can't reliably shoot action shots, another thing I rarely attempt anyway.

Robt.

That's pretty much the way I catergorize them. But for every rule there is an exception. The Olympus E-10 and E-20 are true DSLRs but do not have interchangeable lenses. I thought that was a pretty innovative design when I first read about it. And I appreciate it even more now that I have an interchangeable lens DSLR and have learned first hand about the sensor dust symdrome.
03/28/2005 10:34:32 PM · #22
Originally posted by coolhar:

Originally posted by bear_music:

As far as I'm concerned, a point 'n shoot is a little, flat, rectangular camera with viewfinder that you can slip in a pocket. A dSLR is any digital camera with interchangeable lenses (unless somebody makes digital, high-end rangefinder camera like the old Leicas and Contaxes), and a camera like mine or Davidson's is a "prosumer" with most of the attributes of a dSLR except lens interchangeability.

I don't feel "handicapped" by my camera except in the sense that I can't shoot extreme wide-angle or telephoto with any great degree of optical precision, and I rarely desire to do these things, and also the shutter lag on prosumers is so bad I can't reliably shoot action shots, another thing I rarely attempt anyway.

Robt.

That's pretty much the way I catergorize them. But for every rule there is an exception. The Olympus E-10 and E-20 are true DSLRs but do not have interchangeable lenses. I thought that was a pretty innovative design when I first read about it. And I appreciate it even more now that I have an interchangeable lens DSLR and have learned first hand about the sensor dust symdrome.


That's interesting. I didn't know that.

Robt.
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