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03/27/2005 10:50:30 AM · #1 |
Anyone have/know about this monitor, SAMSUNG 213T-Black 21" LCD Monitor? Our local SAM'S club has them but I can't tell by their hook-up (running at 1024x768 with like 20 other monitors on the same chain) and I can't get a good idea of it's clarity, brightness, etc. I'm hoping that some folks on here have it and can provide some feedback/reviews. I'm currently using a SONY 21" CRT which gives about 19 3/4" viewing space. This SAMSUNG LCD would give over a full 1 1/2" extra viewing space diagonal. Also, when I run my SONY at 1200x1600 it gets pretty fuzzy so I run it at 1280 x 960. I really want to get back to 1200x1600 which the SAMSUNG LCD provides.
Please provide review/feedback if you can!!!
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03/27/2005 11:24:57 AM · #2 |
have someone at sams show you, it's as simple as that.
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03/27/2005 12:49:22 PM · #3 |
You have way too much confidence in my local SAM'S Club because most people that work there don't even know the password to the freaking computers Screen savers. I tried that the first time I was in there and got tired of waiting after about an hour.
So, it's not as simple as that.
Originally posted by totaldis:
have someone at sams show you, it's as simple as that. |
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03/27/2005 03:02:27 PM · #4 |
I wouldn´t go for the samsung monitor, their "dead pixep policy" is 8 pixels or more only, so you can have a spot on the center of your screen with 7 dead pixels all bright green or something and you won´t get a replacement unless you can kill another pixel.
I´d rather go for the 20" apple HD cinema display running at 1680x1050, I´ve never seen a dead pixel in an apple LCD, not even in my powerbook wich is almost 3 years old :) $999
DELL UltraSharp 2005FPW 20.1-inch Wide Aspect running at 1680 x 1050 is also a great LCD. $599 and a good price to.
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03/27/2005 03:11:54 PM · #5 |
iiyama and viewsonic generally offer best performance for a reaonable price.
Check out computer magazines etc for tests. This isn't necessarily the best place to ask. |
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03/27/2005 03:47:06 PM · #6 |
I agree that it would suck to have the dead pixel scenario. However, I am looking at SAM's Club because their extended warranty program does cover even just 1 dead pixel and I can get 3 year extended for only $80.00. The person that I spoke to their said that any time they get a complaint of a dead pixel, they just replace the unit with either same or better if no longer have same unit.
I do share you concern with the policy of 8 or mode have to be dead though.
Originally posted by DanSig:
I wouldn´t go for the samsung monitor, their "dead pixep policy" is 8 pixels or more only, so you can have a spot on the center of your screen with 7 dead pixels all bright green or something and you won´t get a replacement unless you can kill another pixel.
I´d rather go for the 20" apple HD cinema display running at 1680x1050, I´ve never seen a dead pixel in an apple LCD, not even in my powerbook wich is almost 3 years old :) $999
DELL UltraSharp 2005FPW 20.1-inch Wide Aspect running at 1680 x 1050 is also a great LCD. $599 and a good price to.
Dell store |
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03/27/2005 10:58:09 PM · #7 |
| I have the Silver version of this monitor and it is great!. With the DVI input (not sure about the analog) you can go up to a 1600x1200 resolution. I've had this monitor about 1 year and haven't had any problems. The monitor even rotates 90 degrees for a vertical aspect. Brightness is very good, clarity is awesome. The only con about the monitor is the 25ms response time. Not the best for gaming or video. The quality is good, but a faster reponse rate will give you better performance. If video or gaming is not a concern, than this monitor is excellent. The colors are also excellent. I have an ATI 9800 Pro video card in my PC. Great combination. I'd say go for it! |
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03/28/2005 05:35:44 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by krazyivan:
I have the Silver version of this monitor and it is great!. With the DVI input (not sure about the analog) you can go up to a 1600x1200 resolution. I've had this monitor about 1 year and haven't had any problems. The monitor even rotates 90 degrees for a vertical aspect. Brightness is very good, clarity is awesome. The only con about the monitor is the 25ms response time. Not the best for gaming or video. The quality is good, but a faster reponse rate will give you better performance. If video or gaming is not a concern, than this monitor is excellent. The colors are also excellent. I have an ATI 9800 Pro video card in my PC. Great combination. I'd say go for it! |
for photo editing you don´t need faster then 25ms, mostLCD thar run on 16ms or faster can do that because they don´t show 16.7m colors and most of the 16ms LCD´s are the really cheap kind that you don´t want :)
I use the 23" apple HD cinema display and the 19" Sony LCD both running on 25ms and they are just fine for gaming.but I just don´t play that much ;) |
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03/28/2005 07:59:04 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by DanSig:
Originally posted by krazyivan:
I have the Silver version of this monitor and it is great!. With the DVI input (not sure about the analog) you can go up to a 1600x1200 resolution. I've had this monitor about 1 year and haven't had any problems. The monitor even rotates 90 degrees for a vertical aspect. Brightness is very good, clarity is awesome. The only con about the monitor is the 25ms response time. Not the best for gaming or video. The quality is good, but a faster reponse rate will give you better performance. If video or gaming is not a concern, than this monitor is excellent. The colors are also excellent. I have an ATI 9800 Pro video card in my PC. Great combination. I'd say go for it! |
for photo editing you don´t need faster then 25ms, mostLCD thar run on 16ms or faster can do that because they don´t show 16.7m colors and most of the 16ms LCD´s are the really cheap kind that you don´t want :)
I use the 23" apple HD cinema display and the 19" Sony LCD both running on 25ms and they are just fine for gaming.but I just don´t play that much ;) |
Good information to know. Thanks.
I was also noticing that the new Apple 23" display can handle the 16.7 million colors and has a 16ms response time. The cool thing is now Apple's displays have DVI inputs as standards so they can be used on a PC that has a video card with DVI. If I had the means, I would upgrade in a heartbeat.
However, I am really happy with my Samsung monitor. I have run this monitor non-stop and it has been great, no problems. |
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03/28/2005 08:17:40 AM · #10 |
Actually, only those LCD monitors that are 19" and smaller and feature a 16ms or lower response rate can't handle 16.7 million colors.
Those monitors have what we call a TN-panel which is a nice panel for those playing games but is dismal for for any graphics editing, both because of limited color range (normally these panels are 6-bit and can display either 262,000 colors or 16.2 million colors by using dithering - e.g. they cheat) and because the colors change quite a bit depending on the angle you look at the screen.
However, all 20"+ LCD monitors that I know of have a IPS, PVA or MVA panel and most of those (if not all?) can display 16.7 million colors, even those displays that feature 16ms response rate or lower.
The Samsung 213T has a PVA panel and should be quite good but if I remember correctly it is getting quite old these days.
Personally I'd rather have a LCD having S-IPS panel, such as one of the Apple, Eizo, Lacie or Iiyama monitors or perhaps the new 24" PVA Dell monitor, FP2405, which Dell has practically been giving away for ~$900 with discounts.
If you want to read up on the different types of LCD-monitors there is an excellent, if not a bit technical, article over at X-bit labs. |
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