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03/26/2005 10:47:10 AM · #1
Ok I know that the DoF is a little soft... (I am going to reshoot this if the concept is viable)

But does anyone except me like this idea or is everyone sick of the selective color b&w


Message edited by author 2005-03-26 10:51:57.
03/26/2005 10:52:43 AM · #2
Originally posted by nomad469:

Ok I know that the DoF is a little soft... (I am going to reshoot this if the concept is viable)

But does anyone except me like this idea or is everyone sick of the selective color b&w



Fixed it for you...just: [ thumb]159865[ /thumb]. (Without the spaces.)

Edit: I see you figured it out. :)

Message edited by author 2005-03-26 10:53:20.
03/26/2005 10:53:35 AM · #3
Thanks ...Took me a sec to figure it out.
:)

Originally posted by KaDi:

Originally posted by nomad469:

Ok I know that the DoF is a little soft... (I am going to reshoot this if the concept is viable)

But does anyone except me like this idea or is everyone sick of the selective color b&w



Fixed it for you...just: [ thumb]159865[ /thumb]. (Without the spaces.)
03/26/2005 10:59:49 AM · #4
Did you ever see what a pickled jalapeno looks like after it has sat out in an open jar without refrigeration for a couple months? That is what your grey jalapenos look like.
03/26/2005 11:00:00 AM · #5
Originally posted by nomad469:

But does anyone except me like this idea or is everyone sick of the selective color b&w?

I'm not sick of selective desaturation in itself. I'm somewhat bored of seeing it used for the sake of using it and not to improve the impact of the image.

The thing that strikes me most about your use of it is your choice of which chilli to single out. It's half hidden, wrinkled and not particularly exciting. And yet there's another chilli over to the left which is shown in it's entirety, is in the foreground and is smoother in texture. Wouldn't this chilli be a better candidate to be the one left in colour when the rest are desaturated?

Honestly, I think the technique suits only a fraction of the images it's used on and that this image doesn't really benefit from it, IMHO.
03/26/2005 11:00:42 AM · #6
Well, now that we have the image posted in triplicate....

Selective color is interesting as a technique. What makes it ho-hum for me when viewing other's work (I'm always facinated by my own applicaiton of a technique) is the choice of subject.

In the case of this image I might have selected the pepper in the lower left corner that sits atop the others. I would be trying to say something like "There are peppers, and then there is this pepper which rises above the rest." By choosing the pepper underneath the others, you're saying something different, I think.
03/26/2005 11:03:01 AM · #7
Yes.
03/26/2005 11:03:21 AM · #8
Fix the focus, color another chile or two (or four) and I think you'd have a great shot!

Message edited by author 2005-03-26 11:03:49.
03/26/2005 11:22:18 AM · #9
Personaly, I love selective desat. But I don't think you have chosen the right subject for such photo to work.
Not to mention that it is too soft all around, the main problem IMO is that the color does not add to the unique-ness of the subject.

Basically, when you leave something colorful in a b&w photo, it is made to make it stand out more then it already is.
Here even though it is red, I don't think this pepper stands out more then any other in the composition.

You can try shooting the red pepper among some other vegetables or fruits like garlic or the big common green peppers, and then leave this hot one, with it's unique shape - red.

03/26/2005 11:42:58 AM · #10
That's what I love about you guys ... you are so brutally honest!!! This is exactly the type of feedback that I need!

I admit it is too soft in focus ... it is a crop of a much larger image.
As I said ... I plan to reshoot this ...because I like the concept.

Ignoring the focus issues... any comment on the tonal range... is it too dark???

03/26/2005 12:06:49 PM · #11
Tonal range is too dark, yes. And the selective desat is used somewhat "irrationally". I can imagine using it in an image just like this witht he caption "one in a million" or somesuch, but I think in that case it would work better if the surrounding peppers were semi-desaturated but still retained, say, 15% of their color, while the "emerging" pepper was on steroids, so to speak.

It always surprises me how much full desaturation we see in DPC, and how little partial desaturation. IMO many of the "selective desat" images would be vastly improved if they were "selective semi-desat"...

Robt.
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