Rugby - DPChallenge Forums

03/22/2005 12:21:09 PM · #1

My 18 year old and I went to the Savannah, Georgia rugby tournament this past weekend. I got into the 2nd half of one game, but mostly took pictures. The game pics were taken with with a Canon Rebel and a EF 70-200mm f/4 L. Any comments would be welcome.

//public.fotki.com/scrum8/savannah/

Mr Tee

Canon EOS-5D

03/22/2005 12:26:06 PM · #2

Photos are good, although I feel some of the skin tones are a little light. I am afraid, as an Englishman, I would rather not discuss Rugby at the moment, sore (or is it sour) point.

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03/22/2005 12:36:37 PM · #3

There were more than a few ruggers from the UK there this weekend. I got called for "hands in the ruck" by the ref, and then scolded by a Scotsman, that I should know better. I do know better, but I get a little confused after 20 minutes of rucking and mauling.

It was really bright, and the our games were early morning and late afternoon, so I should have toned them down a bit.

Originally posted by Mr Tee:

Photos are good, although I feel some of the skin tones are a little light. I am afraid, as an Englishman, I would rather not discuss Rugby at the moment, sore (or is it sour) point.

Tamron AF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 LD for Canon

03/22/2005 12:42:50 PM · #4

Originally posted by scrum8:

... I got called for "hands in the ruck" by the ref, and then scolded by a Scotsman, that I should know better.

Thats one of the reasons Mr Tee is sour - the pro's don't know the difference so I wouldn't worry too much. As far as I remember (though things may have changed) a maul becomes a ruck when the 'player' (not ball)is grounded and there are at least 2 other players there. Oh, and a good ref will tell the players when it becomes a ruck.

DrewLong

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

03/22/2005 12:56:28 PM · #5

There are some great shots in there scrum. I don't know squat about rugby, being from the us. but I like the intensity and would love to play if my friends weren't such nancy's.
Anyway, some of my favorite shots are

the subject is centered and well lit. lots of action but it's not in the way of the shot.

Great expression! really represents the intensity of rugby. should be on a poster.
//public.fotki.com/scrum8/savannah/img_5753p.html
great tunnel effect with the ball being well lit and everyone else with their eyes on the prize.
//public.fotki.com/scrum8/savannah/img_5735p.html
another shot that should be on a poster
//public.fotki.com/scrum8/savannah/img_5748p.html
Great balance and perspective, good team shot

03/22/2005 08:34:12 PM · #6

Thanks, Drew. There is probably a rugby club near you. There were 84 clubs at the tournament in Savannah, and that was just from east of the Mississippi. I've played for NATO HQ's, Parris Island, and now the Toledo Celtics. We had three rookies at practice tonight and the Old Boys (over 35 years) got out of wind sprints by teaching the rooks the great sport.

Anyway, the best way to get your friends interested is to go to some practices, and when they see you're not maimed, they'll give it a try. Your local RFC won't turn anyone down.

ianmill

Canon EOS-10D

03/23/2005 03:01:01 PM · #7

You won't have heard of him, but Mr Tee might have - my PT teacher at school was Ian McClauchlin AKA Mighty Mouse

The range of photos is good, but at small events there is always going to be the problem of backgrounds. The widest possible aperture should always be used to throw out of focus cars, trees, etc which are not visible at major events. Finding a good site and staying put, ie waiting for the action to come to you, might be one way of getting round this problem.

Ian

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

03/23/2005 06:43:04 PM · #8

Originally posted by ianmill:

You won't have heard of him, but Mr Tee might have - my PT teacher at school was Ian McClauchlin AKA Mighty Mouse
Ian

Thanks, Ian. You're right I don't know much about Premier or Super Rugby, but thanks for the advice.

Regards,
Bruce

Pedro

Nikon D200

03/23/2005 06:50:57 PM · #9

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

nah...the Ruck is all about the ball. once it's a ruck the player has to let go of it. if he doesn't, he pays in two ways: penalty against from the ref, and many many boots to the ribs from his opponents. won't comment on which is the lesser of the two evils.

oh yeah, and Bruce: you're better off to shoot things like this in Manual mode when it's all bright and sunny like that. the Rebel doesn't spot meter, so you're likely to get lots of blown out faces etc, since the metering takes into account all the jerseys, background etc. Meter it yourself a few times at the beginning, then trust those settings throughout. Check your white balance too...the boys look pretty pasty white for being in georgia :)

Message edited by author 2005-03-23 18:54:47.

03/23/2005 06:53:16 PM · #10

Originally posted by DrewLong:

I don't know squat about rugby.

It's a game played by men with funny shaped balls

03/23/2005 06:55:01 PM · #11

Originally posted by Artan:

Originally posted by DrewLong:
I don't know squat about rugby.

It's a game played by men with funny shaped balls

As opposed to the main US game with a funny shaped ball that rarely touches a foot....

docpjv

03/23/2005 07:01:26 PM · #12

Rugby!!!! The game created by a man-god!!!! What a game, the southern hemisphere Super 12 is currently going... watch your international sports channels and see real men doing their stuff.

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03/23/2005 07:03:16 PM · #13

Originally posted by Pedro:

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Thats one of the reasons Mr Tee is sour - the pro's don't know the difference so I wouldn't worry too much. As far as I remember (though things may have changed) a maul becomes a ruck when the 'player' (not ball)is grounded and there are at least 2 other players there. Oh, and a good ref will tell the players when it becomes a ruck.

nah...the Ruck is all about the ball. once it's a ruck the player has to let go of it. if he doesn't, he pays in two ways: penalty against from the ref, and many many boots to the ribs from his opponents. won't comment on which is the lesser of the two evils.

if the ruck is all about the ball, what is a maul about and when/how does a maul become a ruck? what a great site, I'm learning about rugby as well as photography :)

edited to say I looked it up here

Message edited by author 2005-03-23 19:07:15.

03/23/2005 07:04:25 PM · #14

Naaaa The real stuff was the 6 Nations which concluded last weekend.

We play a propper mans sport in cold weather.....

Message edited by author 2005-03-23 19:04:41.

docpjv

03/23/2005 07:06:37 PM · #15

Artan, go away! 6 nations is great... super 12 greater and 3 nations the greatest. But what would my pommy friend know;-)

docpjv

03/23/2005 07:08:09 PM · #16

if the ruck is all about the ball, what is a maul about and when/how does a maul become a ruck? what a great site, I'm learning about rugby as well as photography :)

The maul becomes a rug when the 3rd person gets to the ball.

03/23/2005 07:12:12 PM · #17

Originally posted by gibun:

Artan, go away! 6 nations is great... super 12 greater and 3 nations the greatest. But what would my pommy friend know;-)

Having spent my school and Uni days slogging it out on soggy pitches training in the dark on freezing evenings, with the welcome of a cold shower to get clean, I dream of playing in the warm Southern Hemisphere with the all those nancy boys......;)

PS. I was a swift of foot winger, which is very helpfull when you leave comments like this....

03/23/2005 07:13:29 PM · #18

Which is what I said at the start.

Firsty

03/23/2005 07:13:36 PM · #19

South Africans and English can't play rugby :p

It's New Zealand where real rugby is played and to a lesser extent Australia

Message edited by author 2005-03-23 19:14:39.

03/23/2005 07:16:20 PM · #20

Originally posted by Firsty:

South Africans and English can't play rugby :p

It's New Zealand where real rugby is played and to a lesser extent Australia

Remind me please who the world champions are????

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR DG IF-ED

03/23/2005 07:18:53 PM · #21

Originally posted by gibun:

The maul becomes a rug when the 3rd person gets to the ball.

Which is an interesting concept because as soon as the second person floors the first, they have to step back and let the first person back up, so in strict interpretaion does a ruck ever start....

e301

03/23/2005 07:19:15 PM · #22

Originally posted by Firsty:

South Africans and English can't play rugby :p

It's New Zealand where real rugby is played and to a lesser extent Australia

Certainly not at the moment, we can't. Lions tour soon, though ... let those little welsh wizards get at 'em ... really looking forward to that.

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Pedro

Nikon D200

03/23/2005 07:21:47 PM · #23

a ruck and a maul look virtually the same. the difference is the location of the ball. if it's on the ground, it's a ruck. if a player is still holding the ball, it's a maul. a maul becomes a ruck when the player floors the ball, or the player himself is floored then he has to let go)

a ruck never becomes a maul directly, because once it's floored...it's hands out (the reason Bruce was scolded by the Scot in the first place)

clear as the mud we play in?