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03/23/2005 06:59:57 AM · #26 |
Well, according to five-dimensional spacetime using imaginary time, there was no beginning... the Universe just "is" and has been.
/Andrew
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03/23/2005 07:06:55 AM · #27 |
In the beginning....there was this little egg.
I'm wondering if we'll see nudes ~wink~
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03/23/2005 07:25:53 AM · #28 |
Still stand correct. :D
Message edited by author 2005-03-23 07:27:21.
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03/23/2005 07:36:09 AM · #29 |
I hate to be anti-religious, and I realize that there are things beyond explanation (which require faith, not proof) but a really silly concept is the fundamentalist belief that the universe, the earth, everything started only several thousand years ago. Or that we are not animals. Homo Sapiens are 99.9% similar to the pygmy chimpanzee(and 99% similar to a housecat strangely enough), sure that .1% goes along way- we haave HBO, general tso's chicken and digital watches. Also murder, war, and countless bad things.
But, in the end, you must ask yourself, aren't the goals of homo sapiens and chimpanzees really the same? find some bananas, avoid all calls from tony danza, and enjoy a good smoke with a moderately hairy female of the species?
but seriously, if you think the Adam and Eve story is balls on truth, and not just poetic allegory(which it really is , to explain pride and original sin)- but if you happen to think it really happened- ask your self who is mrs. cain? or mrs. seth?
Message edited by author 2005-03-23 07:36:45. |
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03/23/2005 11:26:47 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
but if you happen to think it really happened- ask your self who is mrs. cain? or mrs. seth? |
If you live in a place like Alabama the explanation is really quite simple to see. Adam and Eve could have had daughters that were not mentioned in the bible, or lacking that it is quite possible that Cain bred back to Eve. I mean if you are looking on just that as a point of dissention on the theory of creation then your point is flawed. I could give you many stronger points for and against your argument, but I digress.
Besides I fail to see where the Bible states the earth is only a few thousand years old. That theory is merely an interpretation that certain individuals or religions have derived from the text of the Bible. Many others read it in a very different way.
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03/23/2005 11:34:17 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
So we all bought IS lenses and saw that it was good and there was much rejoicing. |
ROFL |
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03/23/2005 11:36:44 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by Artyste:
Originally posted by Pug-H:
Originally posted by Azrifel:
In the beginning there were certainly no humans or stuff constructed by humans around. So this is a nature challenge. |
That's a rather limiting view. How about athletes lined up waiting for the starter's gun? Ground being prepared for a new building? A vintage car being started by the old crank in the front (I hope you know what I mean...) Lots of other things that don't have to have a biblical reference. |
Exactly.. the challenge description was left open-ended.. nothing says that it has to be the beginning of the earth, or humanity or the universe.. :)
Could be the beginning of breakfast.
Or the beginning of the end.
or the beginning of Dukes of Hazard. (Creatively photograph "Those Good Ol' Boys") |
I agree! Got to love them Dukes of Hazard boys. |
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03/23/2005 11:39:22 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
- ask your self who is mrs. cain? or mrs. seth? |
They were monkeys. that is the only explanation. Hence, we were descended from monkeys! It all ties together, very neatly this way.
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03/23/2005 11:39:36 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
So we all bought IS lenses and saw that it was good and there was much rejoicing. |
yaaaaay. |
lol, got it. As much rejoicing as when they were forced to eat the minstrels? |
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03/23/2005 11:44:41 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by blindjustice:
but if you happen to think it really happened- ask your self who is mrs. cain? or mrs. seth? |
If you live in a place like Alabama the explanation is really quite simple to see. Adam and Eve could have had daughters that were not mentioned in the bible, or lacking that it is quite possible that Cain bred back to Eve. I mean if you are looking on just that as a point of dissention on the theory of creation then your point is flawed. I could give you many stronger points for and against your argument, but I digress.
Besides I fail to see where the Bible states the earth is only a few thousand years old. That theory is merely an interpretation that certain individuals or religions have derived from the text of the Bible. Many others read it in a very different way. |
First-I was kind of knocking fundamentalists, who have indicated that there was no evolution and treat all biblical writings as fact. My "argument" was just brought up lightly, I wasn't looking for "stronger" points.
Second, the part about who is mrs. cain or seth was only brought up because it shows the logical hilarity when strictly relying to text.
but anyway. we are essentially hairless monkeys with opposable thumbs, it would be tough for a lot of the goofballs around here to hold there rebel 300 d otherwise...
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03/23/2005 11:46:35 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
goofballs around here to hold there rebel 300 d otherwise... |
Oooh camera envy! I love it (from this side anyway)
I take offence at being classified as a goofball. I am most assuredly an oddball. Nikon users are goofballs.
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03/23/2005 11:47:24 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
Originally posted by blindjustice:
goofballs around here to hold there rebel 300 d otherwise... |
Oooh camera envy! I love it (from this side anyway)
I take offence at being classified as a goofball. I am most assuredly an oddball. Nikon users are goofballs. |
So what does that make Oly users?
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03/23/2005 11:51:04 AM · #38 |
almost extinct...
just kidding- I picked the canon randomly. no- offense meant to the Rebel crowd. |
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03/23/2005 11:53:05 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
Originally posted by blindjustice:
goofballs around here to hold there rebel 300 d otherwise... |
Oooh camera envy! I love it (from this side anyway)
I take offence at being classified as a goofball. I am most assuredly an oddball. Nikon users are goofballs. |
Oi behave! ;)
goofball indeed!
I read on another thread earlier a mumble about choosing Nikon is choosing the dark side, with the comments I've read about Christianity in this thread I'll happily take the dark side option :)
Now where did I put my black candles and my copy of Crowley's 'Magick' ;)
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03/23/2005 11:56:36 AM · #40 |
Nikon backwards is
"No Kin"
an obvious mark of lucifer himself. (the angel of light)
Just coincidence that photography has been called "painting with light."
I don't think so.
oh yeah, and dunkin donuts backwards is "
"stunod niknud" a famous italian insult. |
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03/23/2005 11:59:40 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
I hate to be anti-religious, and I realize that there are things beyond explanation (which require faith, not proof) but a really silly concept is the fundamentalist belief that the universe, the earth, everything started only several thousand years ago. Or that we are not animals. Homo Sapiens are 99.9% similar to the pygmy chimpanzee(and 99% similar to a housecat strangely enough), sure that .1% goes along way- we haave HBO, general tso's chicken and digital watches. Also murder, war, and countless bad things.
But, in the end, you must ask yourself, aren't the goals of homo sapiens and chimpanzees really the same? find some bananas, avoid all calls from tony danza, and enjoy a good smoke with a moderately hairy female of the species?
but seriously, if you think the Adam and Eve story is balls on truth, and not just poetic allegory(which it really is , to explain pride and original sin)- but if you happen to think it really happened- ask your self who is mrs. cain? or mrs. seth? |
Some people take the bible very 'literally'....which is not the case. As you suggested...the beginning is an allegory. The bible is full of literary forms such as: poems, epics, mock epics, miracles, legends, etc. That's why it's important to understand the literary meaning...because if we misunderstand the form, we misunderstand the meaning.
Just my .02 cents :)
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03/23/2005 12:02:20 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
So we all bought IS lenses and saw that it was good and there was much rejoicing. |
w00h00!! Amen! LOL |
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03/23/2005 12:03:52 PM · #43 |
"I prefer to hear Shakespear quoted rather than the Bible, at least Shakespear has some relevance and meaning" - Darren Coleman '05
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03/23/2005 12:05:29 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
but anyway. we are essentially hairless monkeys with opposable thumbs, it would be tough for a lot of the goofballs around here to hold there rebel 300 d otherwise... |
This just struck my funny bone! ROFL hehehe |
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03/23/2005 12:07:04 PM · #45 |
yes colyla:
text interpretation is an extremely important part of what I have done, what I am doing, and what I will do. (even that sounds religious)most of the religious strife, or any strife, legal or political, even, comes from different interpretations of text. Who is the "messiah"- who is a "prophet" whose land is whose, god- the constitution! could there be more fights about textual interpretation than with the bible and/or constitution? I say no!.
So in the begining, there was the word. And we don't knopw what the word was, but we do know it wasn't
..."booya"
..."flamboyant"
and it certainly wasn't
... "polyester." |
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03/23/2005 12:08:43 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by blindjustice:
I hate to be anti-religious, and I realize that there are things beyond explanation (which require faith, not proof) but a really silly concept is the fundamentalist belief that the universe, the earth, everything started only several thousand years ago. Or that we are not animals. Homo Sapiens are 99.9% similar to the pygmy chimpanzee(and 99% similar to a housecat strangely enough), sure that .1% goes along way- we haave HBO, general tso's chicken and digital watches. Also murder, war, and countless bad things.
But, in the end, you must ask yourself, aren't the goals of homo sapiens and chimpanzees really the same? find some bananas, avoid all calls from tony danza, and enjoy a good smoke with a moderately hairy female of the species?
but seriously, if you think the Adam and Eve story is balls on truth, and not just poetic allegory(which it really is , to explain pride and original sin)- but if you happen to think it really happened- ask your self who is mrs. cain? or mrs. seth? |
Some people take the bible very 'literally'....which is not the case. As you suggested...the beginning is an allegory. The bible is full of literary forms such as: poems, epics, mock epics, miracles, legends, etc. That's why it's important to understand the literary meaning...because if we misunderstand the form, we misunderstand the meaning.
Just my .02 cents :) |
We have people here (everywhere?) who lock their children in closets to pray because they take the Bible so literally. I think they missed the part about Jesus speaking in parables.
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03/23/2005 12:09:18 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
yes colyla:
text interpretation is an extremely important part of what I have done, what I am doing, and what I will do. (even that sounds religious)most of the religious strife, or any strife, legal or political, even, comes from different interpretations of text. Who is the "messiah"- who is a "prophet" whose land is whose, god- the constitution! could there be more fights about textual interpretation than with the bible and/or constitution? I say no!.
So in the begining, there was the word. And we don't knopw what the word was, but we do know it wasn't
..."booya"
..."flamboyant"
and it certainly wasn't
... "polyester." |
You have got to STOP! I sides are hurting!!! LOLOL |
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03/23/2005 12:09:29 PM · #48 |
shakespeare is oft quoted but even less understood. take hamlet, polonius alone has about 30 quotations we use everyday. amazing really.
and screw bacon. he wrote none of shakespeare!
Message edited by author 2005-03-23 12:09:43. |
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03/23/2005 12:11:51 PM · #49 |
I'm new to DPC but I've got to say this thread has kept me in stitches. People are walking by my office wondering what the heck I'm laughing at.
I'm a firm believer in God and firm believer in creation, but this thread has got a lot of great humor in it. I love the Dunkin Doughnut comment (even though I'm Italian). I believe this just shows how creative photographers are. I'm looking forward to being more involved with this forum.
Thanks for all the laughs.
-RCB |
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03/23/2005 12:14:54 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
shakespeare is oft quoted but even less understood. take hamlet, polonius alone has about 30 quotations we use everyday. amazing really.
and screw bacon. he wrote none of shakespeare! |
Bacon is goood! Porkchops are goood!
-Vincent Vega
Message edited by author 2005-03-23 12:18:39.
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