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03/17/2005 08:56:39 AM · #1 |
These rocks were once hidden under a steady flow of water. But time has altered the course of the streams that quenched there thirst. Now they sit dry, cracked, and weathered.
I don't just see a set of rocks, I see time and how it ages and changes every thing including everyone.
Now that you know why I took the picture. Comments welcome on how to improve. I'm new at B&W, any comments is welcome.
Thanks.
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03/17/2005 09:04:02 AM · #2 |
| I like your composition very much and think that a great photo is in there somewhere. The b/w seems pretty flat to me however, and unfortunately I don't have any specific suggestions on how to make it better since most of my b/w attempts have a similar flattness. I'll be watching your responses (assuming others have the same take as I do) and hopefully you (we) will get a little instruction on how to add the pop that so many of the AA challenge entries had. BTW, I am currently using Elements II, and I don't think it has the Channel Mixer that some Photoshop users have mentioned elsewhere to give b/w shots the richness that I'm after. What p/p softwear are you using? |
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03/17/2005 09:25:52 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by nova:
I like your composition very much and think that a great photo is in there somewhere. The b/w seems pretty flat to me however, and unfortunately I don't have any specific suggestions on how to make it better since most of my b/w attempts have a similar flattness. I'll be watching your responses (assuming others have the same take as I do) and hopefully you (we) will get a little instruction on how to add the pop that so many of the AA challenge entries had. BTW, I am currently using Elements II, and I don't think it has the Channel Mixer that some Photoshop users have mentioned elsewhere to give b/w shots the richness that I'm after. What p/p softwear are you using? |
Thank you for your comment. I have dodged and burned a little on the rocks to try to add depth. Did it make a difference?
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03/17/2005 09:43:14 AM · #4 |
I like the image as well, and agree that it looks a little flat. I think it might be a camera problem though, that makes it look non-contrasted. Remember that in BW photography, it is often smart to underexpose a little bit, because the shades are crucial to a good black and white shot.
Dodging and burning is a good idea, and I tend to use the channel mixer in monochrome mode to get things the way I want (I use The GIMP). Often, I just desaturate and get a good starting point by that, and I often add way more contrast than I would if I had a color image. Try overdoing things a little bit as a practice, I think an overdone shot is more interesting than a flat and boring one, and it's easier to tell what's wrong.
I'm pretty new to photography myself, and I don't have much to show, but I could show off a few BWs that I'm somewhat happy with. One is in the current challenge, so I'll have to wait until the voting is over to show you that one ;)
//dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=141312
//dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=141311
I've gotten better at BW processing since these though, and I'll try to come back to you when the challenge is over if you want that.
Good luck! |
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03/17/2005 10:04:35 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by magnon:
I like the image as well, and agree that it looks a little flat. I think it might be a camera problem though, that makes it look non-contrasted. |
Does this look like a contrast problem, if so what could cause that kind of problem. lighting was to my back facing the rocks.
Here is the original with no PS except just to resize to 640X.
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03/17/2005 10:20:46 AM · #6 |
What about reshooting with the sun at a different location to introduce some contrast into the actual photograph? You can only do so much with a flat image, and this is rather flat out of the camera, primarily due to the frontlighting from the sun being purely behind you.
Think about this - if you want depth and contrast, force the light beams to bend before they enter your camera. |
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03/17/2005 11:23:13 AM · #7 |
| Started a new thread about my camera issue .here I hope someone can help me with this problem. |
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03/17/2005 11:59:33 AM · #8 |
For me there's an issue of both light, composition and detail. At 640 pixels (if that's your target) you don't get much detail unless you're close. That said, I don't see much interest/relevance in that tree so you could get closer and show more of the texture and form in the rocks.
Your tonal range isn't bad but you've got a busy scene with some sky that needn't be there. |
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