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03/14/2005 02:22:18 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
I don't think they can include the image as a permanent part of the challenge because there are copyright issues. |
If this isn't educational fair use according to US Copyright law, I don't know what is. There really should be no problem posting a small image/the entry here. There is no attempt to profit from the image, nor does it in any way diminish the future commercial value, which I think are the main criteria needed for a use to constitute infringement. |
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03/14/2005 02:28:48 AM · #27 |
That was fun! I didn't catch it in my voting. That's great that it was put in there, and that it placed so well :) At least the voters agreed that it had the qualities of an AA print :)
Can we see the vote breakdown?
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03/14/2005 02:51:25 AM · #28 |
Very fun idea indeed.
What I would like to know is how many 1's and 2's this photo got...
I mean, do the low voters recognize quality?
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03/14/2005 04:57:55 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by keegbow:
What a great idea on a fantastic challenge. I agree it would be good to flag this somehow also would be nice to know how many DQ were requested. |
There were a total of 2 DQ's requested. We PM'ed both requestors to explain what was going on.
We could maybe modify the challenge description to include a link to this thread.
-Terry
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03/14/2005 05:04:03 AM · #30 |
I actually thought that somebody had gone there and shot a copy! I'm so gullible... :)
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03/14/2005 05:20:32 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by jonr:
I actually thought that somebody had gone there and shot a copy! I'm so gullible... :) |
me too! i didn't vote much in this challenge (didn't get anywhere near the required 20%), but i did see the thumbnail for this and think (wow, that one looks promising).. but i think i forget to ever get around to looking at it (and i haven't seen the original enough that i would've necessarily picked up on it).
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03/14/2005 07:58:33 AM · #32 |
Low down and sneaky. Nice to see so many people actually recognised it too.
Let's not do this too often, though.
John
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03/14/2005 08:11:46 AM · #33 |
It was one of my favorite shots and definitely would have scored it higher had it not been for the pixelization and the lines that almost looked like it was scanned from an half-tone image.
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03/14/2005 08:38:55 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
jejeje�
Fooled 'em with the non-landscape, we did...
Great fun and very interesting. I'm relieved to see Ansel did well. It was unfortunately not a great reproduction (had to sample up in size), so it woudl no doubt have done better if taken from a "real" print.
Robt. |
LOL shoulda used one of his florals.... that would have really thrown a wrench in it
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03/14/2005 08:58:21 AM · #35 |
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03/14/2005 08:59:23 AM · #36 |
| Given that this wasn't one of Ansel's stereotypical landscapes, the high placement ought to dispel the myth that the voters don't know what they're doing. A better scan might have ribboned. |
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03/14/2005 09:13:47 AM · #37 |
Very interesting comments on the photo. I've been carefully studying AA's work for the past several months to see how his skies look in terms of grain and noise--and found that he does indeed have grain and whatnot in his heavens. It helped me relax a bit on demanding perfect clarity in my own photos. Fun idea guys!
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03/14/2005 10:27:45 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Given that this wasn't one of Ansel's stereotypical landscapes, the high placement ought to dispel the myth that the voters don't know what they're doing. A better scan might have ribboned. |
Agreed. The version at the National Archives is a much better scan and most certainly have scored higher and could have ribboned. Now whether or not it could have beaten that FANTASTIC cactus shot is another story. LOL ;) ;)
Regarding grain... Personally, I think electronic noise does very little to improve an image and should be eliminated whenever possible.
Message edited by author 2005-03-14 10:29:54.
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03/14/2005 10:29:28 AM · #39 |
So that's what took the challenge results so long to refresh... :-)
Very clever! |
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03/14/2005 10:39:54 AM · #40 |
It was one of the handful of entrys that really looked Anselish to me, and I scored it a 10. Overall, I was quite disappointed in the predominance of garishly high-contrast images. Why many people perceive that to be Adams' style is a mystery to me. Continuous tonality and maximum dof, along with perfect focus and exposure are the qualities I looked for.
I could not bring myself to enter this challenge for several reasons - primarily my own lack of an image that could do Adams justice. It seems to me that DPCers have quite a ways to go in their understanding of what made him tick.
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03/14/2005 10:59:56 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by jemison:
It seems to me that DPCers have quite a ways to go in their understanding of what made him tick. |
If it were that easy, then he never would have made a name for himself doing it. |
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03/14/2005 11:37:22 AM · #42 |
Could this thread have sparked the idea in Robert's head? ;)
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=179621
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03/14/2005 11:49:30 AM · #43 |
Actually, there was another thread, I can't put my finger on it, where someone else broached the idea of entering an Ansel in the challenge. In that thread I "volunteered" to create a dummy account if Drew and Langdon allowed it and use it to enter an Ansel. Subsequently they contacted me and said they'd enter it from their side, and asked for my help in selecting one.
Robt.
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03/14/2005 11:56:08 AM · #44 |
Assuming an AA shot OUGHT to have won this challenge is akin to assuming that Ansel himself could not have continued to grow, find new subjects to shoot and create new and better art were he to have lived even longer.
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03/14/2005 12:01:40 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Actually, there was another thread, I can't put my finger on it, where someone else broached the idea of entering an Ansel in the challenge. In that thread I "volunteered" to create a dummy account if Drew and Langdon allowed it and use it to enter an Ansel. Subsequently they contacted me and said they'd enter it from their side, and asked for my help in selecting one.
Robt. |
Oh, it looked like the thread I started (i put the link in the previous message) was the one you made that statement in...
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03/14/2005 12:06:05 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by capgal:
Originally posted by bear_music:
Actually, there was another thread, I can't put my finger on it, where someone else broached the idea of entering an Ansel in the challenge. In that thread I "volunteered" to create a dummy account if Drew and Langdon allowed it and use it to enter an Ansel. Subsequently they contacted me and said they'd enter it from their side, and asked for my help in selecting one.
Robt. |
Oh, it looked like the thread I started (i put the link in the previous message) was the one you made that statement in...
Deb |
Duh, yeah, now I see it... I went to your link and didn't see any posts regarding that as i skimmed it so assumed it must be another thread... There were a few running at the time...
Robt.
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03/14/2005 12:38:01 PM · #47 |
| It's almost like when Charlie Chaplin entered a Charlie Chaplin look alike contest and lost... Except maybe his face was a little grainy. :-) |
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03/14/2005 01:10:18 PM · #48 |
I am curious what I voted on it. how can I find that out?
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03/14/2005 01:39:17 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by fstopopen:
I am curious what I voted on it. how can I find that out?
drake |
When logged in, you should see your vote in red on the voting graph when viewing the image page. |
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03/14/2005 02:01:25 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by kpriest:
Originally posted by fstopopen:
I am curious what I voted on it. how can I find that out?
drake |
When logged in, you should see your vote in red on the voting graph when viewing the image page. |
Except that the image page has been removed : )
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