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02/28/2005 08:41:09 AM · #1 |
Irecently bought an Epson R200 photo printer and I have printed a dozen or so simple picture and I am quite happy with the results so far, as expected, having owned a c82 and worked with all types of printers...
but here is the thing.
I have noticed a cracking of the blacks on some of the glossy shots now, and I am not sure what is causing this. I noticed it on 4x6 hp premium heavyweight glossy photo paper- is it a cross brand thing?
I knew that epson durabrite ink was pigment based instead of dye based and therefore needed, or rather, was improved by durabrite paper. But,
I thought that the r200, essentially the same as the r300 series epson printer line with six ink colors was dye based and therefore it waould print ok on any similar printer.
Any one have any comments solutions or thoughts about this problem? I really would appreciate any feedback.
\thanks Paul |
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02/28/2005 08:52:32 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by blindjustice: I knew that epson durabrite ink was pigment based instead of dye based and therefore needed, or rather, was improved by durabrite paper. |
Are you sure about that? I thought the durabrite inks, used in the lesser expensive Epson's was in fact dye-based. It is the Ultrachrome inks, used in the R800 and above, that is pigment-based. |
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02/28/2005 12:59:13 PM · #3 |
Test it on some Epson paper, the paper is probably the problem.
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02/28/2005 01:07:59 PM · #4 |
I just bought a new printer. I wound up going with an HP, in some part because one of the things the sales guy (who was the most sincerely helpful sales person I've ever encountered) is that Canons tend to have a lot of issues printing on non-Canon paper, implying that if I went with a Canon I'd be locked in on the paper, whereas with the HP I could use most papers. Perhaps it's a similar problem with the Epson...
Message edited by author 2005-02-28 13:10:20. |
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02/28/2005 04:48:53 PM · #5 |
well, thanks for the comments- you could be right about dye- or pigment based- but gee, anybody with similar problems on the R200. Can paper "spoil" without obvious exposure to sunlight or the like? |
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02/28/2005 05:10:05 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by kearock: I just bought a new printer. I wound up going with an HP, in some part because one of the things the sales guy (who was the most sincerely helpful sales person I've ever encountered) is that Canons tend to have a lot of issues printing on non-Canon paper, implying that if I went with a Canon I'd be locked in on the paper, whereas with the HP I could use most papers. Perhaps it's a similar problem with the Epson... |
I have to agree with him there.
I did some tests, admittedly about 8 years ago so inks will have changed, using a Canon (forget the model) and 6 different makes of photo paper (I collected from friends). The results were amazingly different, particularly with the reds. They went from excellent to "no way in hell that's even close!". As might have been predicted, the canon paper looked best with the canon.
I did the same test with an Epson and again the picture colours did vary, but not to the same degree as with the Canon. I never had a chance to do the same with an HP. With the Epson the Epson paper worked bext.
The main thing I did pick up though is that I now always use Epson paper with my Epson, and always will unless there is a "paper" type I need, canvas for instance, that they do not make.
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02/28/2005 05:17:11 PM · #7 |
I have the 300 and the only problems I have had with using other than epson paper (i've used about 2-3 off brands like Kodak) is that they tend to be a little sticky. Never seen any other problems...sorry probably not a lot of help. |
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02/28/2005 07:01:13 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by sabphoto: I have the 300 and the only problems I have had with using other than epson paper (i've used about 2-3 off brands like Kodak) is that they tend to be a little sticky. Never seen any other problems...sorry probably not a lot of help. |
Referring back to my last post, and within that to the Canon printer.
I bought a box of 50 sheets of a Kodak paper. I had to end up giving it away. The ink literally pooled on it, forming little globules. You literally could not even tell what the photo was meant to be of.
Not knocking Kodak paper there, or Canon inks, but that particular kodak paper was obviously completely incompatible with that particular ink, to a really amazing degree.
The effect was almost as if you'd coated paper with wax and then sprayed it with ink.
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