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02/26/2005 10:13:21 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Plexxoid:
As for the 8-22 2.8 el cheapo for $200, that would cost more like $1200. F2.8+zoom+extreme wideangle does not = $200. And for L quality construction and optics, I wouldn't be surprised if it were closer to $2000. |
Are you going to go against EVERYONE that follows your silly idea and submits an idea for a lens? dude...just make the damn 8-22 cheaply and be done with it...i'm done playing your game.
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02/26/2005 10:17:47 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by deapee:
dude...just make the damn 8-22 cheaply and be done with it... |
I have all the materials you will need right here.
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02/26/2005 10:19:28 PM · #28 |
| Sorry, didn't mean to offend. It was more of a remark than a ridicule, but come to think of it, I believe if it were made entirely of plastic or something, it may work. |
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02/26/2005 10:22:02 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by deapee:
dude...just make the damn 8-22 cheaply and be done with it... |
I have all the materials you will need right here. |
Wow that's a bunch of stuff! Looks pretty good. Why'd you decide to sell it all together? |
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02/26/2005 10:28:31 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Plexxoid:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by deapee:
dude...just make the damn 8-22 cheaply and be done with it... |
I have all the materials you will need right here. |
Wow that's a bunch of stuff! Looks pretty good. Why'd you decide to sell it all together? |
I didn't feel like sorting through it, cleaning it up and taking the time to ship it all separatly.
Message edited by author 2005-02-26 22:29:22.
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02/26/2005 10:34:14 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Plexxoid:
Sorry, didn't mean to offend. It was more of a remark than a ridicule, but come to think of it, I believe if it were made entirely of plastic or something, it may work. |
it's cool, I was just messing with you. plastic is my friend!
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02/27/2005 03:59:29 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
In wildlife photography speed at long distances makes for otherwise unobtainable shots. |
True, but you'd have to mortgage the house, boat, car, kids, wife and your mums pet Llama to pay for pleasure of catching a brown lower wetland, lesser known, spotted chipmunk having a crap... :-).
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02/27/2005 06:00:46 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by KiwiChris:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
In wildlife photography speed at long distances makes for otherwise unobtainable shots. |
True, but you'd have to mortgage the house, boat, car, kids, wife and your mums pet Llama to pay for pleasure of catching a brown lower wetland, lesser known, spotted chipmunk having a crap... :-). |
I wonder what can be done with the CCD's and CMOS in 10 years time, especially in relation to wildlife. Would the manufacturers be able to cram say 15mp on a 2/3" (4x crop) chip with good noise characteristics and dynamic range? If that's the case it could be very interesting to use these small imagers or just the centre crop of a much larger one (a la D2X) with a 300mm lens to obtain the same crop as a 1Ds does now with a 1200mm lens. Sure, the perspective would be different, but it is a hell of a lot cheaper. On the other hand, for a lens to resolve well on a 15mp 2/3" chip it needs to be very, very good and that could be very expensive.
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02/27/2005 06:02:26 AM · #34 |
I think my dreamlens at this moment (because it is not tested yet) is the new Sigma DC 30mm f1.4 prime with HSM. If the quality is there and the price is right I will definitely get me one.
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02/27/2005 09:15:57 AM · #35 |
| Fast, and good medium wide-angle. With a multiplier, that's almost a normal lens. Sounds good, how much it cost? |
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02/27/2005 09:19:36 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by hsteg:
EF 10-1200 1.2L IS USM
and it has to be white. lol |
Ya know, you'd get carpel tunnel syndrome from zooming in and out, moving the gigantic peices of glasses from one end to the other. It'd have to have a motorized zoom. |
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02/27/2005 09:22:40 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by Plexxoid:
Originally posted by hsteg:
EF 10-1200 1.2L IS USM
and it has to be white. lol |
Ya know, you'd get carpel tunnel syndrome from zooming in and out, moving the gigantic peices of glasses from one end to the other. It'd have to have a motorized zoom. |
Motorized zooms are pooey... if they would make that lens, you should be able to just think and it will zoom. ;)
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02/27/2005 09:22:42 AM · #38 |
I don't know what the limit is to wide angle, I suppose the lens just extends into the camera, forcing you to use mirror lock-up.
Anyways, a 1mm lens sounds good. I bet at that distance, the shutters would trip over the rear element, not to mention the mirror.
Is it possible? And exactly how wide is that?
Message edited by author 2005-02-27 09:24:55. |
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02/27/2005 09:59:13 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by Plexxoid:
I don't know what the limit is to wide angle, I suppose the lens just extends into the camera, forcing you to use mirror lock-up.
Anyways, a 1mm lens sounds good. I bet at that distance, the shutters would trip over the rear element, not to mention the mirror.
Is it possible? And exactly how wide is that? |
I don't think you can go beyond 180° unless you figure a way to get the camera to look around behind you. An 8mm can acheive 180° field of view.
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02/27/2005 10:27:05 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Originally posted by Plexxoid:
I don't know what the limit is to wide angle, I suppose the lens just extends into the camera, forcing you to use mirror lock-up.
Anyways, a 1mm lens sounds good. I bet at that distance, the shutters would trip over the rear element, not to mention the mirror.
Is it possible? And exactly how wide is that? |
I don't think you can go beyond 180° unless you figure a way to get the camera to look around behind you. An 8mm can acheive 180° field of view. |
Any further and you will experience extreme vignetting. |
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02/27/2005 10:27:18 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by hsteg:
EF 10-1200 1.2L IS USM
and it has to be white. lol |
I'm with you--except that I don't care if it's white. It has to be small though, no more than 3" long and size 67 mm front threads.
Now that would be a dream. Realistically ;) I'd settle for a
12-400mm 1.4L IS USM for $700, 3.5" long, 67mm threads.
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02/27/2005 10:33:16 AM · #42 |
I am sorry to say, I am running out of dreams...
Here is a sample of some of my toy inventory.
1 Nikkor 17-35 mm f2.8 D AFS
2 Nikkor 28-70 mm f2.8 D AFS
3 Nikkor 28-200mm f3.5-f5.6 D IF
4 Nikkor 80-200 mm f2.8 D AFS
5 Nikkor 80-400 mm f4.5-f5.6 D VR
6 Nikkor 28 mm f1.4 D Fast F-Stop
7 Nikkor 60 mm f2.8 D Micro
8 Nikkor 85 mm f1.4 D Fast F-Stop
9 Nikkor 105 mm f2.0 D DC
10 Nikkor 105 mm f2.8 D Micro
11 Nikkor 200 mm f4.0 D Micro
12 Nikkor 500 mm f8.0 M Catadioptric
13 Nikkor 1000 mm f11.0 M Catadioptric
14 Nikkor 50 mm F1.4 M Vintage
The 85mm perspective control lens is next on my list.
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02/27/2005 12:11:44 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by Azrifel:
Originally posted by KiwiChris:
Originally posted by nsbca7:
In wildlife photography speed at long distances makes for otherwise unobtainable shots. |
True, but you'd have to mortgage the house, boat, car, kids, wife and your mums pet Llama to pay for pleasure of catching a brown lower wetland, lesser known, spotted chipmunk having a crap... :-). |
I wonder what can be done with the CCD's and CMOS in 10 years time, especially in relation to wildlife. Would the manufacturers be able to cram say 15mp on a 2/3" (4x crop) chip with good noise characteristics and dynamic range? If that's the case it could be very interesting to use these small imagers or just the centre crop of a much larger one (a la D2X) with a 300mm lens to obtain the same crop as a 1Ds does now with a 1200mm lens. Sure, the perspective would be different, but it is a hell of a lot cheaper. On the other hand, for a lens to resolve well on a 15mp 2/3" chip it needs to be very, very good and that could be very expensive. |
And the need for such a lens would still exist. Think what you could do with this lens and a 20Mp sensor. (Screw the small sensor). Maybe I'll find out in the next year or two.
Edit:(I forgot, your thinking Nikon. That may be ten years away.)
Message edited by author 2005-02-27 12:13:23.
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02/27/2005 02:22:33 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by nshapiro:
12-400mm 1.4L IS USM for $700, 3.5" long, 67mm threads. |
*sigh* So much for realistic. |
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02/27/2005 02:55:34 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by nshapiro:
12-400mm 1.4L IS USM for $700, 3.5" long, 67mm threads. |
67mm threads? 400mm / 1.4 = 285.7mm And with 12mm wide end you'd be looking at around 300mm thread. :-). Try lugging that sucker around in your pocket.. :-).
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02/28/2005 11:59:09 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by Plexxoid:
Originally posted by nshapiro:
12-400mm 1.4L IS USM for $700, 3.5" long, 67mm threads. |
*sigh* So much for realistic. |
Sorry, I got carried away. There isn't a lens close to my dreams for an SLR. I didn't think you wanted us to only quote an already-existing lens.
If so, size is the most important to me, and IS would be a great help so no tripod is required. So I guess:
Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM Zoom Lens $ 1149.94 |
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03/01/2005 12:17:38 AM · #47 |
Can a lens guru answer me this please....
On a less than full size sensor SLR, the light circle at the sensor is still the same size as on a full size sensor/35mm film, right?
So whay can't a lens be added to focus that large circle of light onto the smaller sensor area, therfore making it brighter and essentially making the lens 'faster'?
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03/01/2005 12:23:32 AM · #48 |
I think that is what Oly did with their Zuiko system.
Message edited by author 2005-03-01 00:23:55.
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03/01/2005 12:36:31 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by jonr:
I actually can get 2 of my dream lenses soon.
14-35mm f2
35-100mm f2
(Yes, constant F2!) |
Who would have though, the worlds first and coming from Olympus hehehe I love it! Just bought one of my dream lenses. The 300mm f2.8 (Big Tuna) Great lens.
Message edited by author 2005-03-01 00:39:00.
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03/01/2005 12:39:07 AM · #50 |
My dream lens(es)?
Nikon Super Wide Angle AF Nikkor 14mm f2.8D ED
Price: $ 1,299.95
Nikon Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto AF-S Zoom Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D ED-IF Autofocus Lens
Price: $ 1,469.95
Nikon Zoom Telephoto AF VR Zoom Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8D G-AFS ED-IF Autofocus Lens (Vibration Reduction
Price: $ 1,449.95
Nikon Zoom Telephoto AF Zoom Nikkor 200-400mm f/4 G-AFS ED-IF VR (Vibration Reduction) Autofocus Lens
Price: $ 5,099.95
Nikon TC-20E II 2x Teleconverter for D-AF-I & AF-S Lenses
Price: $ 429.95
Total = $ 9,749.75
Oh, what the hell, let's throw in a new D2x Body for $4,999.95 for a new total of $14,749.70 (I'm sure they will throw in shipping for this order)
Ok - now what did I do with that Lotto ticket? |
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