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Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

02/25/2005 10:09:46 PM · #1

While voting on separation and 1970s, I thought it would be helpful to have an easy way to comment that the photograph I am viewing does not meat the challenge. Hence, I propose dnmc. Would the community accept this?

deapee

Kodak V803

02/25/2005 10:14:04 PM · #2

Are you that slow of a typist, you cannot just simply type 'does not meet challenge' and you must abbreviate it to dnmc?

'doesn't meet challenge' is 22 characters -- your post is about 216. You could have written 'doesn't meet challenge' about 10 times on people's photos in the time you spent typing your post.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

02/25/2005 10:15:32 PM · #3

Unfortunately 10 times would hardly do.

deapee

Kodak V803

02/25/2005 10:17:02 PM · #4

Originally posted by cloudsme:

Unfortunately 10 times would hardly do.

Then possibly you need to be a bit more lenient in interpreting what does and does not meet the challenge and quit lowballing people's entries.

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

02/25/2005 10:18:14 PM · #5

Perhaps the photographer is a vegeterian.

But even if he should be omnivorous, I'd remain unable to positively determine if a photo meets or does not meet a challenge. I find it much easier to celebrate good photographs which exceed my expectations and extend a presence beyond topical requirements.

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

02/25/2005 10:27:02 PM · #6

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Why even bother with a challenge then? Lets just post our best photos.

coolhar

02/25/2005 10:27:17 PM · #7

Originally posted by cloudsme:

That's fine cloud. Of course everyone will have to ask what it means a few times.

02/25/2005 10:34:46 PM · #8

Originally posted by cloudsme:

Unfortunately 10 times would hardly do.

Perhaps when you the results are in, you could enlighten us as to which photos in your opinion do not meet the challenge. I know that I for one would be very interested in viewing these, and opining as to whether of not I consider your views justified.

Ray

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

02/25/2005 10:44:23 PM · #9

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by cloudsme:
Unfortunately 10 times would hardly do.

Perhaps when you the results are in, you could enlighten us as to which photos in your opinion do not meet the challenge. I know that I for one would be very interested in viewing these, and opining as to whether of not I consider your views justified.

Ray

Out of the 351 photos in separation and 1970s, I think there are far more than 10 that don't meet the challenge. I would like to enlighten you by typing dnmc. This is DPChallenge?

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

02/25/2005 10:46:44 PM · #10

Originally posted by cloudsme:

Originally posted by zeuszen:
Perhaps the photographer is a vegeterian.

But even if he should be omnivorous, I'd remain unable to positively determine if a photo meets or does not meet a challenge. I find it much easier to celebrate good photographs which exceed my expectations and extend a presence beyond topical requirements.

Why even bother with a challenge then? Lets just post our best photos.

To provide a topic is beneficial to photographers who are disheartened by a plethora of possible subjects. This approach is and has been used successfully in many areas of creative education.

A creative approach to topicality may involve irony, persiflage and other subtleties that cannot be measured like a six-inch potatoe chip. To judge an entry as a topical failure, without any awareness of the intellectual and emotional range it contains or extends to, would not be something I would want any part of.

Message edited by author 2005-02-25 22:47:38.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

02/25/2005 10:49:36 PM · #11

Originally posted by cloudsme:

Out of the 351 photos in separation and 1970s, I think there are far more than 10 that don't meet the challenge. I would like to enlighten you by typing dnmc. This is DPChallenge?

Too though huh??? Seriously, as so eloquently noted by Zeuszen, matters of this ilk could be the subject of discussion and interpretation till the dawn of the next ice age. I would seem that in this instance we agree to disagree.

Enough said...

Ray

Message edited by author 2005-02-25 22:52:21.

kawesttex

Apple iPhone 11 Pro

02/25/2005 10:58:31 PM · #12

Being a new member, and having read the numerous threads on voting, all this thread does is keep a prospective member from entering a fine photography forum. I would think that there are a large number of people that own cameras looking to improve their skills. Why not just shoot them!

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

02/25/2005 10:58:52 PM · #13

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Originally posted by cloudsme:

Originally posted by zeuszen:
Perhaps the photographer is a vegeterian.

But even if he should be omnivorous, I'd remain unable to positively determine if a photo meets or does not meet a challenge. I find it much easier to celebrate good photographs which exceed my expectations and extend a presence beyond topical requirements.

Why even bother with a challenge then? Lets just post our best photos.

To provide a topic is beneficial to photographers who are disheartened by a plethora of possible subjects. This approach is and has been used successfully in many areas of creative education.

A creative approach to topicality may involve irony, persiflage and other subtleties that cannot be measured like a six-inch potatoe chip. To judge an entry as a topical failure, without any awareness of the intellectual and emotional range it contains or extends to, would not be something I would want any part of.

To provide a topic is beneficial to photographers who are disheartened by a plethora of possible subjects.

Give me a break. You think most of us wouldn't be able to figure out what to shoot if it wasn't for DPChallenge? The beauty of DPChallenge is that it takes me out of my comfort range, expanding my horizons.

kawesttex

Apple iPhone 11 Pro

02/25/2005 11:01:06 PM · #14

Originally posted by cloudsme:

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Originally posted by cloudsme:

Originally posted by zeuszen:
Perhaps the photographer is a vegeterian.

But even if he should be omnivorous, I'd remain unable to positively determine if a photo meets or does not meet a challenge. I find it much easier to celebrate good photographs which exceed my expectations and extend a presence beyond topical requirements.

Why even bother with a challenge then? Lets just post our best photos.

To provide a topic is beneficial to photographers who are disheartened by a plethora of possible subjects. This approach is and has been used successfully in many areas of creative education.

A creative approach to topicality may involve irony, persiflage and other subtleties that cannot be measured like a six-inch potatoe chip. To judge an entry as a topical failure, without any awareness of the intellectual and emotional range it contains or extends to, would not be something I would want any part of.

To provide a topic is beneficial to photographers who are disheartened by a plethora of possible subjects.

Give me a break. You think most of us wouldn't be able to figure out what to shoot if it wasn't for DPChallenge? The beauty of DPChallenge is that it takes me out of my comfort range, expanding my horizons.

DUH! (Didn't learn much huh?)

deapee

Kodak V803

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

02/25/2005 11:02:36 PM · #15

You both just said the same thing, basically. The challenges here give a photog something to focus on, as originally stated, and can, also expand your horizons to something new.

02/25/2005 11:04:03 PM · #16

If you think I'm the only one who considers whether a photo meets the challenge, check out some of the comments on my pain entry.

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

02/25/2005 11:04:30 PM · #17

Originally posted by kawesttex:

I would think that there are a large number of people that own cameras looking to improve their skills. Why not just shoot them!

Jesus..... I have a camera and want to improve my skills..... I should to into hiding.... quick, where's my camouflage outfit. (hehehehehehe)

I am ever so sorry Kawesttex... I just couldn't resist.

Ray

faidoi

Pentax K10D

02/25/2005 11:10:36 PM · #18

Originally posted by deapee:

Copy and paste :P

kawesttex

Apple iPhone 11 Pro

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

02/25/2005 11:10:50 PM · #19

No problem, I am starting to see where some people are frustrated with those that want to learn. I enyoy photography and I will do what I want or what my customers want. Some folks here can't remember that they never asked a question about a photo and actually started out as a 'rookie'. There is more than one way to take a photo. (By the way I use a 30-30 so you don't have to get to far away.)

02/25/2005 11:12:20 PM · #20

Originally posted by cloudsme:

If you think I'm the only one who considers whether a photo meets the challenge, check out some of the comments on my pain entry.

I took the time to check out each and every one of the comments made on your submission, and to be honest, I would much prefer receiving these types of comments to your dnmc suggestion.

I am sure that you would admit that the feeling of pain in this instance is not exactly overwhelming in this capture and can be the subject of different interpretations.

Ray

02/25/2005 11:16:44 PM · #21

Originally posted by kawesttex:

Just so you know, I also am a rookie in here, and yes we are here to learn. As an aside, you may want to re-read what you posted, and you may just find some humour in there.

Ray

LEONJR

Fujifilm FinePix S3 Pro

02/25/2005 11:18:47 PM · #22

i always look on the brighter side theres always hope for an example a blurry picture

Sigma 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM

02/25/2005 11:22:23 PM · #23

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by cloudsme:

If you think I'm the only one who considers whether a photo meets the challenge, check out some of the comments on my pain entry.

I took the time to check out each and every one of the comments made on your submission, and to be honest, I would much prefer receiving these types of comments to your dnmc suggestion.

I am sure that you would admit that the feeling of pain in this instance is not exactly overwhelming in this capture and can be the subject of different interpretations.

Ray

First, let me say I'm not complaining that many did not think the photo did not meet the challenge. I do admit that the pain is not overwhelming, and they were having fun. My only point is that many people, not just me, are sticklers for the challenge. I do appreciate the lengthy comments, but I would have figured out why someone thought the photo dnmc. Myself, I don't have enough time for lengthy comments and would like to leave a little note like dnmc when approipriate. And if a photo is great and dnmc, I maybe take off a point or two.

Alain

Nikon D7100

02/25/2005 11:30:42 PM · #24

My personnal view on this.... If you think that a picture is dnmc , but you don't want to explain... than just don't comment on it. I do prefer a comment that explain why they think that it did not meet the challenge than somethingh like dnmc ...

If that's all you want to say in a comment, than just give a low score and don't botter with the comment.