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02/24/2005 07:04:19 AM · #1
Hi,
Is there any thing you need to use to take shots on the snow, filters, hoods? or any other equipment? thanks in advance.
02/24/2005 07:46:19 AM · #2
One thing that you will probably have to do, aside from equipment, is in-camera do some positive exposure compensation. The camera's metering system will see the bright snow and average it in, which will make the image underexposed and make the snow grey. What I find acceptable is to over-expose by 2/3 of a stop to the camera's reading. As far as equipment goes, there is nothing special that I would use except for possible a polarizer which would help to cut the glare off of the snow.

Lee
02/24/2005 08:05:51 AM · #3
look up the 'sunny 16' rule.

basically set the shutter speed to the ISO setting - at f:16

the rule
02/24/2005 08:07:12 AM · #4
One thing that I do is I set the camera's White Balance using the snow. That generally gets rid of the bluish tint to my pictures.
02/24/2005 12:58:19 PM · #5
Nathan -- that's a fantastic tip! Thanks!
02/24/2005 01:15:37 PM · #6
Bear in mind that snow shots will often look unnatural if you remove allt he blue from the snow; the eye sees it, and expects it. depends on the shooting conditions. Snow looks "blue" beecause it's highly reflective, and on a bright day what it is reflecting is the blue sky. On overcast days, you don't get that same color throw.

The exposure compensation is vital, however, if most of the image consists of snow. The meter assumes that what it is looking at averages out to a zone 5 gray, and it exposes accordingly. Want to prove it? Take two shots in auto mode, one of a white card and one of a black card. They'll look the same; gray.

Robt.
02/24/2005 01:24:39 PM · #7
Do a test shot and the check the histogram. If you are going to error, error on under exposing, you can correct for this after the fact with PS. The angle of the sun on the snow will make a big difference, try shooting at different times of day to see the effects.

Of course I never get close to the stuff myself.
02/24/2005 02:27:28 PM · #8
Interestingly enough, the general advice when we were in the Antarctic was that with a digital camera it's better to UNDERexpose on snow, to avoid blowing out the highlights and then readjust in post-processing.

The reasoning there being that in general digital is pretty good at retaining shadow detail but loses highlights more easily. It does mean that you have to post-process your image, but it should retain more detail in the snow.

It does run contrary to the traditional advice, it did seem to work out quite nicely (as you can see in Portfolio)
02/24/2005 02:51:03 PM · #9
Originally posted by soup:

look up the 'sunny 16' rule.

basically set the shutter speed to the ISO setting - at f:16

the rule


????

Such rule ?
My rule is : have the Sun behind your back when doing snow,if cloudy avoid taking photos.



Message edited by author 2005-02-24 14:52:26.
02/24/2005 03:08:50 PM · #10
you've never heard of the sunny 16 'rule'?
it's a guideline. if you want less DOF, up the shutter speed the same number of stops. if you want more DOF do the opposite.

with your rule - you give no insight on proper exposure, or the fact if you use the meter ( other than spot meter ) you'll have less than desireable results...

posting a snow image with no exposure settings attached, or compensation settings isn't going to help anyone...

Originally posted by pitsaman:


????

Such rule ?
My rule is : have the Sun behind your back when doing snow,if cloudy avoid taking photos.



02/24/2005 03:13:51 PM · #11
i use manual. take a bunch of test shots until you find the setting you like. thats the beauty of an LCD.


02/24/2005 03:22:32 PM · #12
Camera Model Name
Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL
Shooting Date/Time
11/25/2004 3:11:42 PM
Shooting Mode
Aperture-Priority AE
Tv( Shutter Speed )
1/60
Av( Aperture Value )
11
Metering Mode
Evaluative
Exposure Compensation
+1/3
ISO Speed
100
Lens
20.0 mm
Focal Length
20.0 mm
Image Size
3072x2048
Image Quality
RAW
Flash
Off
White Balance
Auto
AF Mode
AI Focus AF
Parameters
Contrast Normal
Sharpness Normal
Color saturation Normal
Color tone Normal
Color Space
Adobe RGB
File Size
7400KB
Drive Mode
Continuous shooting
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