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02/23/2005 04:33:57 PM · #1
I was playing around this afternoon trying to get a feel for using a stark white background. Now granted this is too dark a subject for the current challenge but it was all I had around at the moment. What do you think?
02/23/2005 04:36:23 PM · #2
I think you did a great job
02/23/2005 04:38:37 PM · #3
Exactly what they're looking for, as far as background.

Robt.
02/23/2005 04:43:05 PM · #4
Now how in the world did you create your white background? I have some ideas from other memebers that iam going to test out but i jus was wondering what you did... thanks
Leon
02/23/2005 04:46:33 PM · #5
Here's the same picture reworked to fit the challenge, as i see it. All legal in basic editing, at least the part I did to it.



Robt.
02/23/2005 04:46:50 PM · #6
i use white matte board for the smaller subjects. as far away as i can get it from the subject. and usually overexpose the shot slightly. sort of like snow...

if it's lacking a tad - it's easy to repair with levels
02/23/2005 04:57:26 PM · #7
Originally posted by soup:

i use white matte board for the smaller subjects. as far away as i can get it from the subject. and usually overexpose the shot slightly. sort of like snow...

if it's lacking a tad - it's easy to repair with levels


What is a white matte board? so you use it a backgroung right but what about the base? thanks
Leon

02/23/2005 05:07:05 PM · #8
Matte board = mount board, the kind of stuff you use to display photos. Go to an art supply store and buy a largish, matte white foamcore board and this will work fine as a background. It just needs to be far enough away fromt he subject that it can be lit separately, and no shadows should fall on it.

Robt.
02/23/2005 05:12:49 PM · #9
Originally posted by bear_music:

Matte board = mount board, the kind of stuff you use to display photos. Go to an art supply store and buy a largish, matte white foamcore board and this will work fine as a background. It just needs to be far enough away fromt he subject that it can be lit separately, and no shadows should fall on it.

Robt.

OHHHHHHHHH Now i understand the board and the subject are not together so if there seperate you can lite the background and the wont be affected by it neati would have never thought of that thanks
LEon
02/23/2005 05:15:20 PM · #10
Right, there ya go. In studio photography it's very rare to have the subject anywhere near the background, actually...

Robt.
02/23/2005 05:27:05 PM · #11
I never knew that thanks for the tips ...
Leon
02/23/2005 05:33:11 PM · #12
Originally posted by LEONJR:

Now how in the world did you create your white background? I have some ideas from other memebers that iam going to test out but i jus was wondering what you did... thanks
Leon


Leon
I just used a really big sheet of white paper

Robert
If I adjusted the levels like that I'm afraid I'd get blasted in the scoring. What do the rest of you think?
Debi
02/23/2005 05:34:36 PM · #13
Originally posted by debitipton:

Originally posted by LEONJR:

Now how in the world did you create your white background? I have some ideas from other memebers that iam going to test out but i jus was wondering what you did... thanks
Leon


Leon
I just used a really big sheet of white paper

Robert
If I adjusted the levels like that I'm afraid I'd get blasted in the scoring. What do the rest of you think?
Debi


Thanks see thats where i fall because i have all these little pieces of white 8x10 scattered and iam taking the picture with my subject wright there without any light thatnks
Leon
02/23/2005 05:35:14 PM · #14
Originally posted by bear_music:

Here's the same picture reworked to fit the challenge, as i see it. All legal in basic editing, at least the part I did to it.



Robt.


I love the original shot, and what you created with it. Great work, both of you!
02/23/2005 05:35:35 PM · #15
Originally posted by debitipton:


If I adjusted the levels like that I'm afraid I'd get blasted in the scoring. What do the rest of you think?
Debi


I think so...because the object itself isn't really "light" in color...it would feel too much like cheating.
02/23/2005 05:38:59 PM · #16
Yes, I would not recommend doing this for the challenge. It is likely to polarize voters. It's more a case of using the opportunity to "show" what a light-on-light would look like, given that I don't happen to have a light-on-light image of my own to offer up.

Still, it's pretty ain't it? :-)

Robt.
02/23/2005 05:47:28 PM · #17
That picture is nice it reminds me of that seen from grease lighting when one of the girls she goes to heaven and is told to go back to school...
Leon
02/23/2005 05:51:26 PM · #18
Leon -- if you go to any art supply place you can get large sheets of paper. I've found it's best if you get smooth sheets as opposed to ones with texture.

Robert -- your right it is pretty. I think this would be easier to do if the flower had been a dark pink rather than the purple. Or maybe it's the green that's throwing me off. It's looking a little funky.
02/23/2005 05:56:30 PM · #19
Originally posted by debitipton:

Leon -- if you go to any art supply place you can get large sheets of paper. I've found it's best if you get smooth sheets as opposed to ones with texture.

Robert -- your right it is pretty. I think this would be easier to do if the flower had been a dark pink rather than the purple. Or maybe it's the green that's throwing me off. It's looking a little funky.


I'll keep that in mind ithink theres a rag shop around here someplace i gotta hit that up definatley thanks

Leon
02/23/2005 05:57:29 PM · #20
It's a combination of desaturation via hue/saturation and lightening via selective color, using the white/neutral/black channels. Each adjustment was made on its own adjustment layer, then the opacities of the layers were adjusted so a hint of color came through. Took about 3 minutes...

Robt.
02/23/2005 06:15:04 PM · #21
Originally posted by bear_music:

It's a combination of desaturation via hue/saturation and lightening via selective color, using the white/neutral/black channels. Each adjustment was made on its own adjustment layer, then the opacities of the layers were adjusted so a hint of color came through. Took about 3 minutes...

Robt.


and I would have just opened the Hue/Saturation and adjusted the Saturation levels down. I haven't mastered channels yet. So I understand -- why did you do it that way?
02/23/2005 06:46:57 PM · #22
i think using overexposure creatively will work better than jsut taking a picture and brightening it. in your photo, as an example, there isnt any overexposure in the subject. what would be interesting is if you chose a paler flower (maybe with white petals), and overexposed it so you can only see the borders of the petals, as well as the stem. letting the subject blend into the backround a little.
anyway, thats what i think
02/23/2005 07:11:38 PM · #23
Originally posted by bear_music:

Yes, I would not recommend doing this for the challenge. It is likely to polarize voters. It's more a case of using the opportunity to "show" what a light-on-light would look like, given that I don't happen to have a light-on-light image of my own to offer up.

Still, it's pretty ain't it? :-)

Robt.


Quite...I was speaking purely to the question of using it in the challenge....it is a very nice image.
02/23/2005 08:42:24 PM · #24
Debi,

It's hard to explain why I do it that way. Try it yourself and see the difference. Saturation alone was not sufficient. Going into seelctive color after it had been desaturated allowed me to "flip" the tonalities of alrready-desaturated areas. The adjusting the layers opacity brought back in color without density, a nice effect.

Robt.
02/23/2005 09:01:08 PM · #25
Here are 2 that took a total of about 5 minutes. Unfortunately speaking as Basic Editing..no, cuz the HighKeySketch action I made to do this uses layers that are Screen and Soft Light. It could be done with levels and curves though.


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