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02/08/2005 12:31:48 AM · #26 |
Recently, I purchased one of these D70's, hoping that I could get it for less than list, but basically, I got scammed. Does anyone know hot to get in touch with Amazon to get some money back, but the thing is I paid with western union, so I never got a order number from Amazon.
Message edited by author 2005-02-08 00:32:25.
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02/08/2005 12:56:47 AM · #27 |
I am very much afraid you might be doomed. I know that Amazon.com does have an 800 number you could call, but the fact that you paid via Western Union would in my opinion leave you High and Dry, as Amazon.com does not do business that way, and I am almost positive that they instruct you NOT to pay in that manner.
I will see if I can find any additional information in this regard and send you an email.
Ray. |
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02/08/2005 12:57:24 AM · #28 |
Please don't spread misinformation. If you aren't familiar with how the underlying technology that runs the Internet functions, saying stuff like this just confuses people. DNS(the system that lets you type //www.amazon.com instead of 207.171.175.36) doesn't work like that. s1.amazon.com IS an amazon.com server. "amazon.com" is the domain, s1 is just a particular host(or more likely a server farm) that amazon.com runs. The "s1", "www" etc is what is called the host name. A host name generally refers to a specific machine within a domain. There's alot of analogies you could use, for instance, you can think of the domain name as a city, and the host name being a house in the city. It doesn't matter what the house is called, it's still part of that city. In a similar fashion it doesn't matter what the host name is, it's still part of the same domain(i.e. owned by amazon.com). Owning a domain name is sort of like owning the city.
They aren't trying to fool anyone into thinking it's encrypted. It looks like s1 directs requests to the server farm that handles their auction functionality.
Want more proof it really is amazon.com? Go to //www.amazon.com and find the auctions link on the left bar...it points to s1.amazon.com so unless someone hacked them and no one noticed, it's a legit site. Now the listing, that's an entirely different issue...
The things you have to look out for are ones where there URLs with IP addresses on the end of them. Those are usually redirects that you have to watch out for.
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02/08/2005 06:27:52 AM · #29 |
Unfortunately Amazon did not read what I wrote to them they replied to me with an automated reply as if I whas complaining of spam.
Please be assured that Amazon.com is not in the business of selling
customer information. Many spammers and spoofers use programs that
randomly generate e-mail addresses, in the hope that some percentage
of these randomly-generated addresses will actually exist...
and stuff like this. |
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02/08/2005 07:28:44 AM · #30 |
There are loads and loads of scam's out there like this one. Most of them arrive via email. Going through my spam filter last night I had an email from 'paypal' saying that an email address had been added to my account and I had to confirm it was legit etc - and all I had to do was click on the link and log in and enter all my details, you know your password, c.card details etc. I get loads of these and sometimes I just click on the link to see what sh*t they have put there. So I click on the link and the site looks really convicing. I can understand how people get duped into parting with c.card details and other information.
Anyway I replied to their email and told them there were a load of stupid bastar*s if they thought I would give them that info.
Message edited by author 2005-02-08 07:29:44.
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02/08/2005 07:56:14 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by MikeOwens:
There are loads and loads of scam's out there like this one. Most of them arrive via email. Going through my spam filter last night I had an email from 'paypal' saying that an email address had been added to my account and I had to confirm it was legit etc - and all I had to do was click on the link and log in and enter all my details, you know your password, c.card details etc. I get loads of these and sometimes I just click on the link to see what sh*t they have put there. So I click on the link and the site looks really convicing. I can understand how people get duped into parting with c.card details and other information.
Anyway I replied to their email and told them there were a load of stupid bastar*s if they thought I would give them that info. |
Also, report it to paypal...I had the same thing once, and I almost fell for it too! It looked just like the paypal site. They didn't ask me for my credit card info. They already had my email as the login and simply asked me to confirm my password.
I was 'this close' to doing so, then I remembered reading that paypal will always (ALWAYS) address you by name when they contact you to prove that they already know who you are...
If I'm not mistaken, they also don't ever link to their home page from an email...they ask you to go to the home page and sign in yourself...
Message edited by author 2005-02-08 07:56:45.
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02/08/2005 08:19:21 AM · #32 |
| I think DPC should approach a vendor directly. I read somewhere on Canon's website prices for camera are set by vendors. If we can gurantee so many cameras sold that the price be droped for a good discount. I think there would be many purchases. I own a hotel and we do a lot of volume buying. We have a group of 8 hoteliers in our area that get together to discuss products and pricing and then we approach the vendor directly and offer our price and quantity thus we get a good price. I say DPC because we have a good background in photography plus the fact there are so many of us. I'm sure if we could get the 20D for 1000 there would be tons on the list wanting to buy. 300d for 400 I would imagine this a good savings. |
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02/08/2005 01:08:32 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by SDW65:
1. Open 2 browser windows, one with the fraud link above and the other just type in www.amazon.com [real site].
2. Go to the bottom of the page where you see "My Account"on both sites.
3. Notice that the true amazon.com url is //..... and the fraud is //s-...... when you put in your info they have it. When you click that link if both were from amazon.com they would take you to the same url.
Remember the thread where every word could be mispelled but you could read it just so long as the first and last letter is the same because your eyes see words as pictures? thats what they are trying to do here and hope a few fall for it.
https://
//s
PLUS notice they are all below the $500 flag limit on most CC's
I have had SunTrust Bank emails that look very real asking for information. I called them and they said they had reports of it but it is still going on. I get them from time to time. The funny thing is I don't have an account with them. lol |
Sorry but you are very mistaken. s1 is clearly a subdomain of amazon.com. So, the document is most definitely housed on the amazon server.
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02/08/2005 03:51:41 PM · #34 |
Here is Amazon's reply and below is what I wrote them:
Hello from Amazon.com, and thanks for writing to us.
Although Amazon.com does not sell used, collectible, or refurbished
items, we make it easy for our customers to find these items through
Amazon Marketplace.
On some items' detail pages on our site, you'll notice a small blue
box located just below the item's picture, indicating availability
from another merchant. The links in this box will take you to lists
of new, used, collectible, or refurbished items--identical to that
particular item--which are available from registered third-party
sellers.
Just click on the link to see a description of each individual item
sellers are offering. If you'd like to buy one of the items that's
being offered, click the yellow "Add to cart" button and fill in
the requested information to complete your purchase.
Please note that Amazon Marketplace listings are created by sellers
other than Amazon.com. If you buy an item at Amazon Marketplace, the
individual seller will process and ship your order. Sellers generally
ship items within two business days.
You can view complete shipping rates for Amazon Marketplace purchases
by visiting the following URL:
//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/537734/
To ensure the safety of your credit card number when you make an
Amazon Marketplace purchase, we handle your transaction via Amazon
Payments--so the seller does not have access to your credit card
information. You may also rest assured that the Amazon.com A-to-z
Guarantee covers your purchases up to $2,500.
For more information, please read our Marketplace help section:
//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/537796/
It is always important for us to hear how customers react to all
aspects of shopping at Amazon.com. Strong customer feedback like
yours helps us continue to improve the selection and service we
provide, and we appreciate the time you took to write to us.
Thank you for shopping at Amazon.com.
Best regards,
Shio Prakash Gupta
Amazon.com Customer Service
//www.amazon.com
==============================
Check your order and more: //www.amazon.com/your-account
ref_id:=hvwwhuhe1100177236
>Date: Tue Feb 08 11:30:27 GMT 2005
>Subject: HMD Feedback to Amazon.com
>From: ----
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02/08/05 03:30:23
NAME: Cristi Matei
COMM ID: cvuwcxge1104829465
COMMENTS: Hello, my name is Cristian, I don't know if I'm
writing
to the right person I just wanted to tell you that there may be a
fraud or
a joke going on on amazon.com I am a photographer, and I noticed some
extremely low prices on some cameras listed on amazon and when I
showed it
to another fellow photographer who is also romanian like me he
noticed that
all the names of the sellers are clearly romanian joke like names.
The kind
of names you put on another kids in school. I don't know if this
makes
sense, but something is going on and it's eyther a joke or the thing
I fear
most some kind of fraud attempt. You may want to take a look at it
and if
you are not the right person for this you may want to forward this
message.
The links where I noticed it are:
//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/offering/list/-
/B0002XQJFA/all/ref%3Ddp%5Fpb%5Fa/103-8947760-3697403
and,
//www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/offering/list/-
/B00008OT2G/all/ref%3Ddp%5Fpb%5Fa/103-8947760-3697403
There is no doubt in my mind that those pricess are not real so I
hope you
catch the guys and that they didn't get to steal money from people or
something like that yet. Good luck.
Cristi Matei |
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02/08/2005 03:56:42 PM · #35 |
Cristi, it seems that once again no one actually READ your letter. They simply have the computer find a matching keyword, then they send off a formletter that deals with that keyword.
I tried writing something like your letter, too, but I never even got a formletter as reply.
Pretty sad, considering THEIR good name is at stake.
In case you'll try again (replying to THAT email might help), I wish you good luck! |
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02/08/2005 06:30:46 PM · #36 |
Nope I won't try it again because I am not involved in this in any way, I just thought I'd help by letting them know something is going on. If they don't care then they are good to pay all these people the "Amazon.com A-to-z Guarantee covers your purchases up to $2,500."...
I wrote them twice on 2 different adress, the first time they said that whas an automated message and they gave me the second adress to write them if that message doesn't answer my "problem" so I wrote to that one and got this reply. You can't help those that don't want to be helped. Probably the scamers took advantage on some sort of similar ignorance from Amazon. What else can I say? To me is sad that all those names sound so romanian and we have enough of the "thiefs of europe" reputation. That's probabluy my only involvment in this.
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02/08/2005 07:06:55 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by colema19:
Please don't spread misinformation. If you aren't familiar with how the underlying technology that runs the Internet functions, saying stuff like this just confuses people. DNS(the system that lets you type //www.amazon.com instead of 207.171.175.36) doesn't work like that. s1.amazon.com IS an amazon.com server. "amazon.com" is the domain, s1 is just a particular host(or more likely a server farm) that amazon.com runs. The "s1", "www" etc is what is called the host name. A host name generally refers to a specific machine within a domain. There's a lot of analogies you could use, for instance, you can think of the domain name as a city, and the host name being a house in the city. It doesn't matter what the house is called, it's still part of that city. In a similar fashion it doesn't matter what the host name is, it's still part of the same domain(i.e. owned by amazon.com). Owning a domain name is sort of like owning the city.
They aren't trying to fool anyone into thinking it's encrypted. It looks like s1 directs requests to the server farm that handles their auction functionality.
Want more proof it really is amazon.com? Go to //www.amazon.com and find the auctions link on the left bar...it points to s1.amazon.com so unless someone hacked them and no one noticed, it's a legit site. Now the listing, that's an entirely different issue...
The things you have to look out for are ones where there URLs with IP addresses on the end of them. Those are usually redirects that you have to watch out for. |
I don't think I am spreading misinformation. Look at what I said Look at the URL it may be a scam site to get your information. NO I'm not familiar with how the underlying technology works but I am not willing to blow $300+ or more on something that sounds to good to be true. It is best to err on the side of caution and make the statement I did in the attempt to help someone out on this site that may purchase an item and get ripped off. I did not mean for my statement to offended you or anyone else. I don't have money to blow and I don't think anyone else wants to blow there money as well even if they have a little or a lot. ....
Message edited by author 2005-02-08 19:11:01. |
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