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02/08/2005 01:48:49 AM · #1 |
I just re-read the Pain challenge... It clearly calls for us to photograph the the "Emotion" of pain. Let us not get this confused with the feeling of "physical" pain. The 2 definitions are quite different, so if you show a pic of someone getting their finger smashed by a hammer, then you clearly are not meeting the challenge, as the pain shown in that photo is brought forth by the physical discomfort of having one's finger pulverized. So, becareful how you set up your shot this week. It looks like it's an easy challenge to misinterpret.
Message edited by author 2005-02-08 01:50:03.
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02/08/2005 01:54:19 AM · #2 |
| i would say that if you showed their finger getting smashed, and also their facial expression, that that would convey the emotion of pain. Would it not? |
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02/08/2005 02:01:47 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Anachronite:
so if you show a pic of someone getting their finger smashed by a hammer, then you clearly are not meeting the challenge |
How about a shot of me poking you in the eye?
It's this bloody pedantic attitude that holds this site back, do you realise what you are saying?
e·mo·tion n.
1. A mental state that arises spontaneously rather than through conscious effort and is often accompanied by physiological changes; a feeling: the emotions of joy, sorrow, reverence, hate, and love.
2. A state of mental agitation or disturbance: spoke unsteadily in a voice that betrayed his emotion. See Synonyms at feeling.
3. The part of the consciousness that involves feeling; sensibility: âThe very essence of literature is the war between emotion and intellectâ (Isaac Bashevis Singer).
If I saw a pic of a finger being smashed it would most certianly convery emotion, either in the form of the appreciation that the 'victim is in pain' or by my own emotion thus generated by the 'urgh' factor!
Please be sensible.
Darren
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02/08/2005 02:13:26 AM · #4 |
Being anal will often times generate it's own painful emotion.
Why don't we judge these images on their merits as long as they fall within the parameters of the challenge description rather then trying to convince others that anything other then the interpretation one person decided to go with is the one everyone should vote higher.
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02/08/2005 02:23:21 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
Being anal will often times generate it's own painful emotion.
Why don't we judge these images on their merits as long as they fall within the parameters of the challenge description rather then trying to convince others that anything other then the interpretation one person decided to go with is the one everyone should vote higher. |
Quite, this is supposed to be a site to encourage creativity rather than suppress it. An open mind is certainly an asset in a discipline such as photography.
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02/08/2005 08:32:09 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by colda:
Please be sensible.
Darren |
LOL did I mention that when I wrote this, my tongue was firmly planted in my cheek? 
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02/08/2005 08:37:08 AM · #7 |
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Message edited by author 2005-02-08 08:40:47. |
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02/08/2005 08:45:54 AM · #8 |
LOL did I mention that when I wrote this, my tongue was firmly planted in my cheek?
Just checked back and No, no you didnt!
Happy to help
Steve
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02/08/2005 09:00:13 AM · #9 |
Any registered user may recommend a submission for disqualification if he or she feels that submission has violated a rule. A recommendation should be made by clicking "Recommend this photograph for disqualification" on that image's voting page, and stating the specific violation in the space provided.
You should then vote on the photo as if the rule was not broken, and leave the determination up to the Site Council.
Look at the bold print. Remember this. The majority of us here are not site council so we should judge as if the photo is qualified
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02/08/2005 09:25:07 AM · #10 |
| But please remember that "not meeting the challenge" is not a grounds upon which to base a DQ request. We only judge whether people followed the rules, not how well the meet the challenge criteris. |
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02/08/2005 09:27:05 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by rex07734:
Any registered user may recommend a submission for disqualification if he or she feels that submission has violated a rule. A recommendation should be made by clicking "Recommend this photograph for disqualification" on that image's voting page, and stating the specific violation in the space provided.
You should then vote on the photo as if the rule was not broken, and leave the determination up to the Site Council.
Look at the bold print. Remember this. The majority of us here are not site council so we should judge as if the photo is qualified |
rex where did this come from. I have read the forum and don't see anyone mentioning anything about DQ so I'm kind of puzzled with your post. If you are saying if you don't think it meets the challenge request a DQ. You can not request a DQ for that reason. Sorry if I missed something...
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02/08/2005 09:32:45 AM · #12 |
I am not saying to request a DQ. I am saying that photos should be voted on as if they met the challenge requirements. It is not up to you to determine if the challenge requirement was met.
It is found in the basic editing rules under Disqualification
Link Here
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02/08/2005 09:38:54 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by rex07734:
I am not saying to request a DQ. I am saying that photos should be voted on as if they met the challenge requirements. It is not up to you to determine if the challenge requirement was met. |
Yes, that's exactly the job of the voters, especially since the SC is not going to make that judgement. In fact, in the voting instructions (such as they are), you are specifically instructed to "keep the challenge topic in mind" or some such phrasing.
It's not the job of the voters to determine if the editing rules were broken.
Message edited by author 2005-02-08 09:39:42. |
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02/08/2005 09:50:04 AM · #14 |
Challenge Details: Try to capture the emotion Pain in your photograph. Good Luck!
This is how the challenge reads. The first thread tried to incert an "of" in the wording and then tried to imply it ment emotional pain. To capture the emotion pain as I would read it is to show a photo that would instill the emotion in us. If I saw a finger being cut off it would instill the emotion pain in me. I think that would clearly meet the challenge. Sometimes lately I think people are losing sight of this site. It is to create art and to have "FUN". The true prize is not the ribbon but to find your artistic nature and to try to develope your skills with the help of others on this site. So lets break out our cameras and shot away.
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02/08/2005 10:05:12 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by puma:
Challenge Details: Try to capture the emotion Pain in your photograph. Good Luck!
Sometimes lately I think people are losing sight of this site. It is to create art and to have "FUN". The true prize is not the ribbon but to find your artistic nature and to try to develop your skills with the help of others on this site. So lets break out our cameras and shot away. |
What he said!!!!!
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02/08/2005 10:22:43 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Anachronite:
I just re-read the Pain challenge... It clearly calls for us to photograph the the "Emotion" of pain. Let us not get this confused with the feeling of "physical" pain. The 2 definitions are quite different, so if you show a pic of someone getting their finger smashed by a hammer, then you clearly are not meeting the challenge, as the pain shown in that photo is brought forth by the physical discomfort of having one's finger pulverized. So, becareful how you set up your shot this week. It looks like it's an easy challenge to misinterpret. |
That's whack.. the feeling of "physical" pain is an emtion.
Don't try to read more into the challenge Details, then what is there:
"Try to capture the emotion Pain in your photograph. Good Luck!"
I suggested this challenge with the text: "Try to capture the emotion Pain in your photograph. Good Luck!" The reason I choose this text was to keep the challenge as open as possible, so that people like you wouldn't interpret much differently..
Show the emotion pain in your photo, be that mentally or physical or whatever way you want it. That was the idea, and meaning behind the challenge. Good Luck
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02/08/2005 10:44:04 AM · #17 |
I just took a picture of myself reading this thread for my "pain" entry.
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02/08/2005 10:48:08 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by joebok:
I just took a picture of myself reading this thread for my "pain" entry. |
Hahahaha, I think you'll finish at top 10 at least hahahahah!
I can't stop laughing. |
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