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 02/06/2005 02:50:27 AM · #26
Since we're talking Shakespeare, Scott, let me ask you: when he says "Cry Havoc! and let slip the dogs of war...", what is he referring to with "dogs of war"? This is a test... jejejeâ„¢

Robt.
 02/06/2005 03:09:40 AM · #27
Took me a while, but I counted all the words in just that Macbeth part. 10,349
 02/06/2005 03:23:42 AM · #28
Ray beat ya to it Hubbie, and in even more detail, LOL...

Robt.
 02/06/2005 03:27:17 AM · #29
Originally posted by bear_music:
Ray beat ya to it Hubbie, and in even more detail, LOL...

Robt.


I'm dyslexic and read it backwards.
 02/06/2005 08:45:28 AM · #30
Originally posted by notonline:
And how many DCP'ers does it take to change a lightbulb???


Don't touch my F'in lightbulb, I'm using that! That's my "studio light" lololol

M
 02/08/2005 01:35:01 AM · #31
but was the lightbulb burnt out or was the switch not on???
 02/08/2005 01:52:08 AM · #32
Originally posted by bear_music:
Since we're talking Shakespeare, Scott, let me ask you: when he says "Cry Havoc! and let slip the dogs of war...", what is he referring to with "dogs of war"? This is a test... jejejeâ„¢

Robt.


can i answer this? i'm a sucker for this kind of thing
 02/08/2005 02:48:21 AM · #33
By all means answer, be my guest :-)

Robt.
 02/08/2005 02:53:37 AM · #34
The Hound of the Baskervilles? : )
 02/08/2005 02:54:03 AM · #35
Originally posted by bear_music:
Since we're talking Shakespeare, Scott, let me ask you: when he says "Cry Havoc! and let slip the dogs of war...", what is he referring to with "dogs of war"? This is a test... jejejeâ„¢

Robt.


Revenge.
 02/08/2005 03:04:38 AM · #36
mmmmmmmm.... a prediction of revenge over Caesar's death, uttered by Mark Antony... I thinks.
 02/08/2005 03:10:48 AM · #37
I am much more fond of Titus then Julius Caesar if we were to compare similar settings.
 02/08/2005 03:11:22 AM · #38
Waiting to give Utro a chance. You guys aren't even close to what I'm getting at, you're contextualizing the comment, I'm looking for the actual, metaphorical meaning of "the dogs of war"...

Robt.
 02/08/2005 03:13:40 AM · #39
Originally posted by bear_music:
Waiting to give Utro a chance. You guys aren't even close to what I'm getting at, you're contextualizing the comment, I'm looking for the actual, metaphorical meaning of "the dogs of war"...

Robt.


So am I a mind reader?
 02/08/2005 03:14:38 AM · #40
Nope. That's why I expanded on my question.

Robt.
 02/08/2005 03:26:54 AM · #41
Originally posted by scottwilson:

But for the best play you can̢۪t beat Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead, by Tom Stoppard, I just about died laughing when I first read that.


I acted in that (as Player King) with Richard Roxburgh (Moulin Rouge, Van Helsing) about 22 years ago...
 02/08/2005 04:44:26 AM · #42
Originally posted by bear_music:
Waiting to give Utro a chance. You guys aren't even close to what I'm getting at, you're contextualizing the comment, I'm looking for the actual, metaphorical meaning of "the dogs of war"...

Robt.


Actually the unleashing of revenge for the death of Ceasar would be a metaphor albiet a contextual one. The literal meaning would be to turn loose actual war dogs. I don't know if you are asking for a deeper metaphoric meaning for the phrase within the context of the play or for a more general one. The "dogs of war" is a common metaphor for soldiers which may often be used in a derogatory senses either refering to the status of the soldier or to the his usage. It is often still used in the context of revenge as in a case that we may combine metaphors to the effect of "Let sleeping dogs lie, lest they unleash the dogs of war". (sic) Or we could mix metaphors to the effect of "Unleash the sleeping dogs" which doesn't make any sense at all but does sound funny.

You are going to have to point me in a better direction or you will have me up re-reading WS til dawn.

Thanks for jump-starting my mind anyway.
02/08/2005 05:09:41 AM · #43
1) Trained chihuahuas fitted with explosive 'saddle'. Were to be used in WWI as trench warfare weapons. Idea abandoned as they always returned to handlers for 'treats'.
2) Medieval siege machines mounted on wheels and driven into walls/gates of castle under attack. Often featured ornate metal dog faces on front, hence name.
3) Lee Marvin and friends.
4) Ok, enough guessing.
Ben
02/08/2005 05:21:34 AM · #44
Actually, Pickard is going in the right direction with #2, but he's not quite there yet. Nsbca, you're cracking me up! Glad I could jump-start your mind.

Robt.
 02/08/2005 07:35:35 AM · #45
Is it these guys?

...or or this song? (great album)

02/08/2005 09:15:51 AM · #46
Originally posted by bear_music:
Actually, Pickard is going in the right direction with #2, but he's not quite there yet. Nsbca, you're cracking me up! Glad I could jump-start your mind.

Robt.

Are you talking about the release mechanism for a catapult?
 02/08/2005 01:18:36 PM · #47
Yes YES yesyesyes! Gold star for the general (fittingly enough)...

The reference is to siege machines, pretensioned and held in readiness by a "dog" (pawl) that is keeping the gearworks from reversing. The dog is the thing that goes clickety-clack when you wind up a gear-type toy, or that yoiu hear clicking when you use a winch on a sailboat, for two examples.

The quote has NOTHING to do with "beasts" of war, and in Shakespeare's day nobody would have read it that way.

Here's a little Rondeau I dashed off on the topic last year, LOL:

Shakespeare 101-- 2004

When Willie cried "Let slip the Dogs of War!"
he didn't have in mind a snarling beast.
What he was after was a metaphor,
our Willie, when he slipped the dogs of war.
He knew full well that Havoc wants for more
than canine rage -- a well-hurled rock at least.
When Willie cried "Let slip the Dogs of War!"
he had in mind a pawl, no snarling beast.

Robt.
 02/08/2005 01:22:46 PM · #48
Well, I think the limits were pushed with this thread.

Longest Thread?
 02/08/2005 01:37:43 PM · #49
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by notonline:
And how many DCP'ers does it take to change a lightbulb???


Lemme see.............that would be 10 I believe....

One to hold the light bulb, two to turn the ladder in a tight circle to help with the screwing motion... and, seven to debate whether what was being undertaken was the changing of a light or a lite...

Just my two,,,er too?? scents.. or is it cents worth.... heehehehe

Ray


You forgot about the several hundred DPC'ers with cameras poised and shutters clicking while the process was completed.
 02/08/2005 01:42:27 PM · #50
Originally posted by bear_music:
Yes YES yesyesyes! Gold star for the general (fittingly enough)...

The reference is to siege machines, pretensioned and held in readiness by a "dog" (pawl) that is keeping the gearworks from reversing. The dog is the thing that goes clickety-clack when you wind up a gear-type toy, or that yoiu hear clicking when you use a winch on a sailboat, for two examples.

The quote has NOTHING to do with "beasts" of war, and in Shakespeare's day nobody would have read it that way.

Here's a little Rondeau I dashed off on the topic last year, LOL:

Shakespeare 101-- 2004

When Willie cried "Let slip the Dogs of War!"
he didn't have in mind a snarling beast.
What he was after was a metaphor,
our Willie, when he slipped the dogs of war.
He knew full well that Havoc wants for more
than canine rage -- a well-hurled rock at least.
When Willie cried "Let slip the Dogs of War!"
he had in mind a pawl, no snarling beast.

Robt.


All that? I have read JC several times in the past and I never got that as WS's intention as to the meaning of what "the dogs of war" was to metaphorically represent. Now, seeing it put this way, I still am not persuaded to change my oppinion. A siege machine may be one way to interpret it but I fail to see any proof that this was Shakespeare's intent.

I'll stick with either revenge or the destruction that would come as the result of revenge as his true metaphor for the "dogs of war".
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