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02/02/2005 03:17:29 PM · #1
Well, i finally got up the confidence to bring my camera on the slopes. These are some shots I took

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The mountain the I went to (Mountain Creek) has a program where I can submit my photos to them, and they are free to do whatever they want with them. I get nothing in return, if I'm lucky, my picture will show up on their site. Is this worth it? Do my pictures deserve more?
Honest opinion please.

If your at all interested, some more pics from that day may be found here
02/02/2005 03:31:08 PM · #2
I think your photos are very good - and if nothing else, it will get you exposure. So why not use them in whatever way possible. And what's to say that once you send them to Mountain Creek, you can't use them elsewhere?

Print, re-print, and print some more. :)
02/02/2005 03:33:44 PM · #3
they could also make money off it, and you'd see zilch.
02/02/2005 03:51:15 PM · #4
Originally posted by jmlelii:

they could also make money off it, and you'd see zilch.


yeah...thats what I am wondering. Are these pictures good enough to be used in a real ad? I dont think I want them making money in and ad, with no credentials given to me or any compensation.
02/02/2005 03:54:49 PM · #5
maxj, just out of curiosity, what sort of gear are you using and how do you keep from getting it wet?
02/02/2005 04:03:33 PM · #6
Originally posted by GoldBerry:

maxj, just out of curiosity, what sort of gear are you using and how do you keep from getting it wet?

It really wasnt a big problem. Before I went i read through the forums about all these problems people had with moisture, but I had none.

I used the lens included with the kit. While skiing down the mountain, I would keep the lens cap on and lean over in the racing position and cover the camera.

I also kept a pretty modest speed.
02/02/2005 04:06:19 PM · #7
At first I had intended to say that any exposure is good exposure and you never know where it could lead you. That could still be true, however, after reading over their terms it seems you are basically supplying them with stock images (including model release forms where necessary) and signing a contract that gives permission for the company to use your images without credit to you. You also dont even get the 20 cents you'd get from shutterstock :P

On one hand if they like your stuff and you submit a fair number of images they may contact you to do more work for them and may even pay you. On the other hand they're getting stock images for use on their web and advertising for free because most everyone is eager to see their images being used 'for real'.
02/02/2005 04:12:05 PM · #8
Originally posted by moodville:

At first I had intended to say that any exposure is good exposure and you never know where it could lead you. That could still be true, however, after reading over their terms it seems you are basically supplying them with stock images (including model release forms where necessary) and signing a contract that gives permission for the company to use your images without credit to you. You also dont even get the 20 cents you'd get from shutterstock :P

On one hand if they like your stuff and you submit a fair number of images they may contact you to do more work for them and may even pay you. On the other hand they're getting stock images for use on their web and advertising for free because most everyone is eager to see their images being used 'for real'.


would I be better off contacting them to see if they are interested in purchasing my images, or would I just make a fool of myself?
02/02/2005 04:20:32 PM · #9
Originally posted by maxj:

I also kept a pretty modest speed.


I wasn't expecting you to say you were SKIING down the hill at the same time. LOL Hilarious :-)

I guess if you keep your distance from the action (and it's a nice day) you dont' have too much to worry about. Unless you're actually skiing/boarding and wipe out..then it's your own fault I guess.
02/02/2005 04:26:00 PM · #10
don't give them to the mountain. They have plenty of money to pay a photographer for photos.



Message edited by author 2005-02-02 16:30:37.
02/02/2005 04:26:06 PM · #11
Originally posted by moodville:

At first I had intended to say that any exposure is good exposure and you never know where it could lead you. That could still be true, however, after reading over their terms it seems you are basically supplying them with stock images (including model release forms where necessary) and signing a contract that gives permission for the company to use your images without credit to you. You also dont even get the 20 cents you'd get from shutterstock :P

On one hand if they like your stuff and you submit a fair number of images they may contact you to do more work for them and may even pay you. On the other hand they're getting stock images for use on their web and advertising for free because most everyone is eager to see their images being used 'for real'.


i tend to agree with moody's first thought. at this stage of the game, go for the exposure. sure, they are set up to exploit you, but if not you, there's a 1000 others willing to supply them images. all you need is for them to pick a couple of yours and you will be able to take credit for the images. at this stage of the game, you want exposure; the money will come, but that shouldn't be your primary focus at this point.

Originally posted by maxj:


would I be better off contacting them to see if they are interested in purchasing my images, or would I just make a fool of myself?


no, you wouldn't make a fool of yourself by asking; all they can do is say no. if you want to make a fool of yourself, i'm sure you can find a far more entertaining way, like crashing into a tree while trying to take a skiing photo ;-)

Originally posted by ericlimon:

don't give them to the mountain. They have plenty of money to pay a photographer for photos.


of course they do, but if they are going to pay, they are typically going to hire an established professional to come do a shoot. or, they are going to a stock agency. but, for the quick and dirty, they'll take them for free from shooters looking to get started.

Message edited by author 2005-02-02 16:29:31.
02/02/2005 04:31:42 PM · #12
Got some great photos there - especially like the second one.

I saw a tutorial the a couple of months ago in a magazine, where a sequence of shots of a snow boarder doing a jump had been combined into one picture - looked pretty neat. Might be fun to experiment with next time you are out.
02/02/2005 04:32:51 PM · #13
Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Originally posted by maxj:

I also kept a pretty modest speed.

I wasn't expecting you to say you were SKIING down the hill at the same time. LOL Hilarious :-)

...yeah, i was pretty scared of falling/crashing. I actually thought out a system of falling to avoid any damage to the camera (personal injury was acceptable).

Through this experience though, I have to give of new found respect for my Rebel. Most of the time, I would stop and take the shots, we would set up point on the trail where I would be taking pictures, but on occasion, I would snap some shots while I was in motion and so was he. With both of us in motion, i did not expect the sots to come out, but a lot of them did, and in focus!

...I think ill put in a call to the mountain this weekend to see if they have any interest in purchasing some of my photos.

Thank you everyone!
02/02/2005 04:36:03 PM · #14
Originally posted by lewis:

Got some great photos there - especially like the second one.

I saw a tutorial the a couple of months ago in a magazine, where a sequence of shots of a snow boarder doing a jump had been combined into one picture - looked pretty neat. Might be fun to experiment with next time you are out.


WHOA!! thats a great idea. I am going to have to give that a try!

ericlimon, the shots you have taken are incredible, did you have some kind of pass to take them? Any tricks you would be willing to share?
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