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Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

01/23/2005 01:47:12 PM · #1

I am pissed almost beyond words. Almost.

Here's a few:

To the site council: get a dictionary and look up the word MAJOR. I did far far far less to the sky than Heida does (and many others do). She ribbons, I get a DQ.
To be accused of cheating is one thing, but to be convicted was shocking.

To the voters: Thank you very much for the comments and votes. "The Corner Office" would not have ribboned but it would have been my highest ranked ever.

To whoever requested the DQ: Get a life. You may feel like a big man now, but in reality, you're a little man, a weasel, a loser.

To D&L: You've built a great site here, but you may want to rethink how you treat your customers.

Jacko

Canon EOS-20D

01/23/2005 02:00:11 PM · #2

You're obviously very upset. Instead of just mouthing off, it would be nice to see what your shot was, and why you were caught "cheating".

Artan

Canon Digital IXUS v3

01/23/2005 02:00:44 PM · #3

Originally posted by TommyMoe21:

Rather Strong words Tommy
Why don't you put up your image and the original for other to better understand your frustration.

01/23/2005 02:01:18 PM · #4

They deleted it.

Travis99

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

01/23/2005 02:02:11 PM · #5

just reupload it to your portfolio and post it up.

Jacko

Canon EOS-20D

01/23/2005 02:02:31 PM · #6

You're a member. You have the ability to upload it to your portfolio so we can see what you did. A resized version of the original would be helpful too.

Originally posted by TommyMoe21:

They deleted it.

cbeller

Nikon D300

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 16-85 f/3.5-5.6G ED VR

01/23/2005 02:02:44 PM · #7

Originally posted by TommyMoe21:

They deleted it.

The SC deleted it from your computer?? :-)

Post them to your portfolio and link the thumbs here.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

01/23/2005 02:07:40 PM · #8

Originally posted by TommyMoe21:

They deleted it.

Actually, it's just "hidden" for now.

01/23/2005 02:09:53 PM · #9

Originally posted by TommyMoe21:

They deleted it.

So you don't have a copy?

No one wants to see something they created DQd, but there are rules. If someone requested verification they were well within their rights to do so. Most of the people reading this have no idea what image is in question and for anyone to consider the fairness of the decision or your protest of that decision I think it would be necessary for you to post the image.

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

01/23/2005 02:12:49 PM · #10

what i was going to submit:

with the Majorelements:

Imagineer

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

01/23/2005 02:16:17 PM · #11

For what it's worth the original was far better in its natural state. The artificial, filtered sky does look illegal - but what a waste. You just didn't need to do it!!

01/23/2005 02:16:28 PM · #12

Originally posted by TommyMoe21:

with the Majorelements:

How did you add the clouds? Were they generated or from another image.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 16-85 f/3.5-5.6G ED VR

01/23/2005 02:17:20 PM · #13

Nope, just ran across it with a dodge tool.

cbeller

Nikon D300

01/23/2005 02:18:02 PM · #14

What does the unedited original look like? It looks like you simulated all of the clouds. How did you accomplish it?

Edit: sorry, a little slow

Message edited by author 2005-01-23 14:18:30.

Artan

Canon Digital IXUS v3

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Nikon

01/23/2005 02:18:40 PM · #15

Originally posted by Imagineer:

For what it's worth the original was far better in its natural state. The artificial, filtered sky does look illegal - but what a waste. You just didn't need to do it!!

I second that, the Edited version has a much more unnatural feel...
I would have gone with the original

blemt

Nikon D70

01/23/2005 02:18:44 PM · #16

Sorry Tommy, but that looks like a major element to me. I see no clouds at all in the original. What steps did you use to reproduce the clouds?

Clara

mfairbanks

Sony DSC-F828

01/23/2005 02:18:53 PM · #17

So which one did you submit, the top or the bottom one?
Mike

Stagolee

Kodak Easyshare C180

Canon EF 50mm f1.2L

01/23/2005 02:21:51 PM · #18

Originally posted by TommyMoe21:

Nope, just ran across it with a dodge tool.

It seems a bit harsh to be DQ for using the dodge tool on the sky.

But you should have left it as the original is better.

cbeller

Nikon D300

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 16-85 f/3.5-5.6G ED VR

01/23/2005 02:23:20 PM · #19

Originally posted by TommyMoe21:

Nope, just ran across it with a dodge tool.

If that is indeed all you did, I guess I do not see how this is any different than other people dodging and burning the crap out of a photo.

I agree with the others though, the one you were going to submit looks a lot better. (Not meaning to add insult to injury)

Imagineer

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

01/23/2005 02:24:09 PM · #20

You'll have to view this as an exercise in restraint. Consider why you did it. Was it because you thought the burned sky routine will score better? Or was it that you just wanted to do something to your shot?

A photo edit needs purpose for it to work well, and I hate the shots on this site that are processed only because it can be done, rather than because it should be done to improve the image.

01/23/2005 02:26:19 PM · #21

Originally posted by TommyMoe21:

Nope, just ran across it with a dodge tool.

If that is the case you have a legitimate protest. This was advanced editing rules.I agree with some of the other posters though, that the original is the stronger image.

Travis99

Canon EOS-5D

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

01/23/2005 02:27:38 PM · #22

What challenge did you enter this in? Architecture? If so I would of assumed this to be legal. Since there is nothing about dodging and burning in the rules.

photodude

01/23/2005 02:27:46 PM · #23

Im very new to all of this, how exactly can the judges tell if the clouds were there originally or not?

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

01/23/2005 02:28:19 PM · #24

The use of the dodge toolk created elements in the photograph that were not present in the original. This is not allowed, by the challenge rules. It was a pretty simple decision, IMO.

If you'd shot a fog scene, say, and then dodged a bright disc to create a sun in the fog, that would be not allowed either.

I've never seen an image of Heida's where she CREATED anything in her skys; just enhanced, with contrast and burning/dodging, what was already there. There's a difference.

Robt.