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01/18/2005 10:43:58 AM · #1
Hi all,
My analogue EOS Rebel (500N) body broke down and now I'm considering to buy a 300D body. I have a Tamron 28-200 LD lens (about 10 years old) and would like to know if anyone has any experience with this combination. Is there loss of sharpness in the higher and especially in the lower range of the lens? Is the width of view in wide angle still acceptable (as it amounts to 28x1.6=44.8)? Will I miss my former wide angle view? Even if you own something similar, please share your views. Thank you.

Noud
01/18/2005 10:59:39 AM · #2
Can't speak to the sharpness issue, but the wide angle question should be an easy one to answer--how often to you use the 28-200 lens set at below 50mm? If you routinely use the lens between 28 and 50mm, then you will miss the wide angle. If you mostly use the upper range of the zoom, then you can probably do without it--just depends on your style. Personally, I would definately miss 28mm.
01/18/2005 11:08:15 AM · #3
One of the greatest atvantages of owning a Canon camera is the wide selection of really great lenses that they offer. That being said, if the lens was sharp on your 500N it should be sharp on the 300D. You will lose wide angle capabilities with the crop factor of this lens/body combination. You can always find a wider lens at a reasonable price. Canon makes them as does Sigma and Tamron.
01/18/2005 11:27:13 AM · #4
Getting the 18-55mm kit lens wouldn't cost much more than the 300D body itself (some 60 bucks?) and you have the wide angle down to the 28mm you have now (18*1.6=28.8)
01/18/2005 11:48:13 AM · #5
Originally posted by carlos:

Getting the 18-55mm kit lens wouldn't cost much more than the 300D body itself (some 60 bucks?) and you have the wide angle down to the 28mm you have now (18*1.6=28.8)


with the body it is about $100 for hte lens.

Originally posted by nsbca7:

You can always find a wider lens at a reasonable price.
Show me one - please. The 18-55 is reasonable, but nothing else i have found is under $300-350.

ajschel You will get a longer zoom from it - the 200 is also 1.6x more, so it becomes a 320mm.

I have the tamron 28-80 and find it acceptably sharp and wide enough - i skipped the kit lens - i got the tamron for less.

If nothing else, it (28-200) will do until you can get something else. you could skip the kit lens and save the $100 and put it toward a better lens later or get the camon 28-135 IS lens and double your rebates!


01/18/2005 12:13:17 PM · #6
If your existing lenses are of the Canon EF format, they will work with the 300D without problem. As far as image quality goes, there are two factors in regards to the 300D: the magnification factor of the camera and the lens itself. To achive the actual mm size of the image, you have to multiply by a factor of 1.6. This is because the CCD used in the camera is smaller than an equivalent 35mm film frame. In regards to the lens, you can expect similar results to what you achieved with the lens on the 35mm camera body. The better the quality of the lens, the better the quality of the resulting image. Of course taking the mutilplication factor into play, you won't achieve as wide an angle with the 300D as you would with the same lens on a 35mm body.

I personally own a 300D with the Canon 17-40mm wide angle lens and I'm very happy with the results. The angle isn't as wide as it is on my Rebel Ti body, but the instant gratification more than compensates.

Hope this helps.

Message edited by author 2005-01-18 12:15:38.
01/18/2005 12:20:04 PM · #7
Originally posted by ajschel:

Hi all,
My analogue EOS Rebel (500N) body broke down and now I'm considering to buy a 300D body. I have a Tamron 28-200 LD lens (about 10 years old) and would like to know if anyone has any experience with this combination. Is there loss of sharpness in the higher and especially in the lower range of the lens? Is the width of view in wide angle still acceptable (as it amounts to 28x1.6=44.8)? Will I miss my former wide angle view? Even if you own something similar, please share your views. Thank you.

Noud


I'm not familiar with that lens but I use two Tamron lenses on my 20D (same lens mount as 300D) without any problems. There is no reason at all for you to fear a loss of sharpness but you may have to make some adjustments to the camera's default settings to acheive what you are used to straight out of the camera. Most digital shooters think it gives more control over the final results to shoot with camera sharpness settings at a low level and then fine tune with software afterwards, the thinking being that you can bring out more sharpness easily with software but can't go the other direction if the image is too sharp to begin with. That's assuming you are shooting in the JPG mode, but a 300D also has the RAW mode which will yield a totally unprocessed (unsharpenned) image that can be manipulated to fit your tastes with RAW conveter software (supplied with 300D) and your normal photo-editing program.

All lenses become longer focal length when used on DSLRs but the performance (sharpness, etc.) should be just as good as with your 500N. Only you can decide if 44.8mm is wide enough for your shooting preferences but I expect it may be very acceptable, at least to start with. Remember that a 50mm is considered the "standard" lens for a 35mm camera. If the 35mm equivilent 44.8mm of your present lens is not wide enough for the type of photography you want to do, consider the so-called "kit" lens that can be purchased with the 300D for about $100 additional, or used for less than that. It is a decent, but not great, lens rated as 18-55mm, which becomes 28.8-88mm when "crop factored" for the 300D.

If you're worried about compatibility it might be a good idea to take your 28-200 into a camera store and ask them to let you put it on a 300D and shoot a few shoots to make sure the two will cooperate, but I doubt there will be any problems.

Message edited by author 2005-01-18 12:24:17.
01/18/2005 12:24:49 PM · #8
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:


Originally posted by nsbca7:

You can always find a wider lens at a reasonable price.
Show me one - please. The 18-55 is reasonable, but nothing else i have found is under $300-350.



You might find this a for little a little less if you look around. I have one. Tack sharp.
01/18/2005 12:34:43 PM · #9
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Originally posted by carlos:

Getting the 18-55mm kit lens wouldn't cost much more than the 300D body itself (some 60 bucks?) and you have the wide angle down to the 28mm you have now (18*1.6=28.8)


with the body it is about $100 for hte lens.

Originally posted by nsbca7:

You can always find a wider lens at a reasonable price.
Show me one - please. The 18-55 is reasonable, but nothing else i have found is under $300-350.

ajschel You will get a longer zoom from it - the 200 is also 1.6x more, so it becomes a 320mm.

I have the tamron 28-80 and find it acceptably sharp and wide enough - i skipped the kit lens - i got the tamron for less.

If nothing else, it (28-200) will do until you can get something else. you could skip the kit lens and save the $100 and put it toward a better lens later or get the camon 28-135 IS lens and double your rebates!


Look for my other posts about the Sigma 18-125 for $250. It's a great lens--the only area where it isn't is that it's not as quiet as the USM Canon's when they focus.

I have two expensive Canon lenses--the 70-200/F4L and now the EFS 10-22. They aren't, at least consistently, noticeably any better in capture quality/sharpness in my opinion, and neither is as practical as the 18-125. If I only could have one lens with me, the Sigma would be it for a combination of range, versatility, and quality.

Not that there aren't better lenses out there, but for the price.

Note that Tamron is working on, and may have already introduced, the competitor to this lens--a 18-200mm lens. Worth looking at too, but the Sigma is great. Look for my other posts about it where I have posted more details.

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