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12/28/2004 07:12:05 AM · #1
How fast would you expect a dial-up internet connection to be? My father's computer runs at 31Kbps, which I think is extremely slow. He changed servers last year for some reason, but I'm sure the previous one was faster.
12/28/2004 07:16:58 AM · #2
56Kfps is very common I think. Still very slow when looking at images and stuff like that.
12/28/2004 07:20:08 AM · #3
A lot of factors can affect your dialup speed, including your wire distance from your telephone company's CO (central office) for your exchange, age and condition of the telephone company's cabling, and the condition of your house wiring. Another less likely possibility is that the firmware in your modem needs to be updated.

So long as your ISP has high-speed modems, they should not be a factor in your connection speed. 31Kbps is not at all uncommon.

-Terry

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12/28/2004 07:22:37 AM · #4
Originally posted by garlic:

56Kfps is very common I think. Still very slow when looking at images and stuff like that.


Unless the regulations have changed (which is possible since I haven't checked for at least a year) 56Kbps is not even possible in the US. While the modems are capable, relulations on the amount of power that can be sent over the phone line caps connection speeds at 53Kbps. Connections at that speed are rare in the United States, as they require very high quality cable and a short distance to the phone company central office.

-Terry
12/28/2004 08:03:03 AM · #5
Average dial-up for me is 41K. Unfortunately I'm stuck with it unless we get satellite internet service (no cable or DSL available here). When I drive in to the office we have a T1 line - sure makes voting a little easier! :-) At the office I have to limit dpc access to lunch break (supposed to be working you know) but that's only two days a week since I telecommute from home the other three days.
12/28/2004 08:20:21 AM · #6
What I ment before was that common maximum (theoretical) speed were 56k but of course you´ll never reach it totaly. I have a dial-up at home and the conection is often just around 50kpbs
12/28/2004 08:58:27 AM · #7
Go to //www.dslreports.com/drtcp this is a tool that can help set your computer to the best settings for your connection. It may make your connection better and it will not hurt to try it.

Click on the DRTCP21.exe file dated Mar 21st 2002 and it will open a box just like you see [in green] on the right side of page.

Read what is the best setting for dial-up and restart your computer. If you were getting 31Kb before you should go up to around 37 to 41kb.
12/28/2004 09:46:17 AM · #8
If I got connected at 31kbs I would be thrilled. My best at home is 26.4kbs, occasionally as low as 12 or even rarely 9600. I don't usually even try to score challenges at home, it's too agonizing. We have very high speed service in the breakroom at work, and that's where I get most of my challenge scoring done!
12/28/2004 10:17:47 AM · #9
I'm currently connected at 42kbs but that is fast for this service as at peak times when everyone is home and on the internet, it usually goes down to 37kbs. It definitely makes challenge voting very frustrating with the long download times. I envy those with broadband, but right now won't get it as I get free ISP service where I'm living.
12/28/2004 10:22:54 AM · #10
Originally posted by nova:

If I got connected at 31kbs I would be thrilled. My best at home is 26.4kbs, occasionally as low as 12 or even rarely 9600. I don't usually even try to score challenges at home, it's too agonizing. We have very high speed service in the breakroom at work, and that's where I get most of my challenge scoring done!


Ouch! Nova, are you by chance using a long phone cord to reach the phone jack from your PC? My wife had a similar problem with her PC downstairs and we had another jack installed closer to the PC and her connect times came up dramatically. Attenuation can be a problem the farther you get from the source.
12/28/2004 01:51:39 PM · #11
Thanks for the replies, guys. The computer's in the new house extension, but about the same distance from the main jack as before in the old study (plus it's in Australia). I'll try the dslreports site.

I'm just so used to having broadband in Japan ...
12/28/2004 07:49:06 PM · #12
Originally posted by glad2badad:


Ouch! Nova, are you by chance using a long phone cord to reach the phone jack from your PC? ... Attenuation can be a problem the farther you get from the source.


(Replying at 24kbs) No, glad2badad, but thanks for the suggestion. My phone cord is no more than 5 feet long. Hopefully DSL will be available in this area some day soon. I'm out in the boonies, though, and that's one small price I pay. Thanks for the sympathetic ear.

12/28/2004 08:36:08 PM · #13
Yeah I have been known to change my intire wire in the middle of the night to get a better connection :).... My average is around 48-49Kbps and lowest like this past weekend I kept getting a 41kbps. Tweak, tweak, tweak,! I keep my browser history cookies and junk cleaned out. I have a accecerator and I will set it low for just searching. When I vote its set max so I wont misjudge anyone but lately theres not enough time to vote like I used to hope to get back to it again and give back what others have for me though. Dialup can be workable but dangit I wish they hear me now and speed me up! ANd I am not talking about the high priced cable (unless they lower them prices) :) Maybe someone should move my post to the rant.
12/28/2004 08:55:23 PM · #14
Factors that affect your modems performance:
1. distance from a telephone central office
2. type of line (copper, carrier, etc)
3. condition of your housewires
4. condition of your equipment.

Average speed for dial up in the U.S. is about 48k for a standard copper line less than 5 miles from the central office.
A carrier system line will perform only at a max of about 24k.
If your home is upwards of about 15 years old, you might get better performance by running a new wire run and jack from the point where the line attaches to the house. This cuts out all the noise that gets into the line from splice points and insulation degradation. Don't use excessively long cords to connect your modem to the jack. Wireless jacks cause problems of their own at times.

Let me know if you have other questions. I work for the phone company.

12/28/2004 09:02:50 PM · #15
Originally posted by Pug-H:

Thanks for the replies, guys. The computer's in the new house extension, but about the same distance from the main jack as before in the old study (plus it's in Australia). I'll try the dslreports site.

I'm just so used to having broadband in Japan ...


It was moved to a new jack and your speed dropped?

I think you've isolated your problem.

-Terry
12/28/2004 09:04:07 PM · #16
Originally posted by nova:

Originally posted by glad2badad:


Ouch! Nova, are you by chance using a long phone cord to reach the phone jack from your PC? ... Attenuation can be a problem the farther you get from the source.


(Replying at 24kbs) No, glad2badad, but thanks for the suggestion. My phone cord is no more than 5 feet long. Hopefully DSL will be available in this area some day soon. I'm out in the boonies, though, and that's one small price I pay. Thanks for the sympathetic ear.


You say that DSL is not available in your area -- is it because you are too far from the switching station/CO or is it not available at all for your exchange?

-Terry
12/28/2004 09:58:32 PM · #17
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:


You say that DSL is not available in your area -- is it because you are too far from the switching station/CO or is it not available at all for your exchange?
-Terry


Hello Terry,
Well, Verizon told me last year that it was available at my address - subject to verification - and I told them great, install it. Turned out that the lines won't support it. I'm waiting for a bit of road construction in my development to be completed, and am planning to have Verizon check it again. If it's not available by next Spring I will consider other options. There's a local company called MySkyView.com, I think they use microwave links or something, and I may give that a whirl. In the meantime, I just use the highspeed at work for challenge voting, iStockPhoto uploads, etc. The good news is that I get frequent breaks .}
12/28/2004 10:07:34 PM · #18
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:


It was moved to a new jack and your speed dropped?

I think you've isolated your problem.

-Terry


I don't know if the speed actually dropped - the house extension was built while I've been living in Japan.
12/28/2004 10:28:18 PM · #19
Originally posted by nova:

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:


You say that DSL is not available in your area -- is it because you are too far from the switching station/CO or is it not available at all for your exchange?
-Terry


Hello Terry,
Well, Verizon told me last year that it was available at my address - subject to verification - and I told them great, install it. Turned out that the lines won't support it. I'm waiting for a bit of road construction in my development to be completed, and am planning to have Verizon check it again. If it's not available by next Spring I will consider other options. There's a local company called MySkyView.com, I think they use microwave links or something, and I may give that a whirl. In the meantime, I just use the highspeed at work for challenge voting, iStockPhoto uploads, etc. The good news is that I get frequent breaks .}


If the lines won't support DSL, odds are they won't support 56k either.

-Terry
12/29/2004 02:29:37 AM · #20
Once you've had broadband, dial-up blows.
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