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12/28/2004 04:27:26 PM · #1 |
I have been trying out Gimp 2.2, and I must say I am quite impressed. All the neccecery tools are there, and some of them are even more flexible than PS version.
I especially like the instant histogram view, the large histogram and levels windows, and total flexibilaty of the whole package.
The only thing that I have not figured out, and I suspect this is Gimp weak spot, is colour managment. For example, I have no idea if Gimp loads my Adobe RGB1998 JPEGs correctly and I have to calibrate my printer again.
But so far, I think 2.2 interface and tools are lightyears ahead 1.x and getting very close to Adobe PS.
Screenshot here
P.s. And it is totally free, and installs without any problems on XP. And here is a non-scaled shot.
Message edited by ClubJuggle - Changed large image to link. |
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12/28/2004 04:31:09 PM · #2 |
Wow.. you sure like your Quicklaunch icons! *Ahem* Gimp interface looks pretty cool too. It's a refreshing look since I stare at PS 10 hours a day.
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12/28/2004 04:32:40 PM · #3 |
Hi Jon...I've got PSElements 2.0 and I had 3 questions for ya:
1) Is this the one that's free or almost free?
2) Also, how do you think this will fare in the design-world? Is this the new up-and-comer or just a well kept secret?
3) One more: If I learn using Gimp 2.2 will I be able to easily switch to Photoshop if I get a dream job that requires Photoshop knowledge/use?
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12/28/2004 04:32:46 PM · #4 |
Would anyone suggest Gimp over Elements 2.0... i see there is a curves option which is sorely missing from Elements... any stories, suggestoins?
L:ee
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12/28/2004 04:48:26 PM · #5 |
I'm so over photoshop...
I've been using FireworksMX (and Fireworks before that). It does everything PS does but it loads faster, is easier use and costs soooooooooo much less. Anyone else use it?
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12/28/2004 04:53:41 PM · #6 |
I have fireworks MX and I don't like it. Came bundled with Dreamweaver MX. I also have CorelDraw, which I much prefer to Adobe Illustrator, and THAT has Corel PhotoPaint, which I also do not prefer to Photoshop.
But then, I've been using Photoshop since version 2, way back when, so maybe I'm just stuck in my ways.
One thing about Photoshop is the HUGE number of filters, plugins, and actions available out there.
(robt)
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12/28/2004 05:01:30 PM · #7 |
does Gimp heal and clone?
Message edited by author 2004-12-28 17:01:41.
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12/28/2004 05:07:13 PM · #8 |
All of this depends upon who you talk to...
What I know is that if you know how to do advanced photo editing with Photoshop, it isn't terribly difficult to pick up enough of The Gimp 2.2 to be capable with it.
I understand that The Gimp has come a long way over the years and is great for amatuer and good enough for semi-professional work. Being 100% Free and OpenSource, it will definately save you the $600 some odd US Dollars that Adobe charges for Photoshop. Also similar to Photoshop, The Gimp will run on multiple Operating System platform, actually The Gimp runs on more then just the two that Photoshop runs on.
Anyway, in coming months and years The Gimp will continue to mature as a photoediting software (as well as a frame by frame video editing suite) and will continue to be free. |
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12/28/2004 05:12:14 PM · #9 |
jonr,
Could you do us a favor and open, say, 3 full-size images in Gimp and do a curves adjustment on each. Then, open your processes list (right-click the task bar and choose "Task manager", second tab called "Processes") to see how much memory it is using. Photoshop just kills me when I do this.
-Brad |
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12/28/2004 05:14:22 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
1) Is this the one that's free or almost free?
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Totally free, as are all of the plugins I've seen.
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
2) Also, how do you think this will fare in the design-world? Is this the new up-and-comer or just a well kept secret?
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It's not even close to being a secret. GIMP has been quite popular in the open source world for years now. In fact, a great number of hollywood productions use a related cousing of GIMP called Cinepaint, which is GIMP with 32 bit extensions.
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
3) One more: If I learn using Gimp 2.2 will I be able to easily switch to Photoshop if I get a dream job that requires Photoshop knowledge/use? |
Advanced photo editing is typically based on implementing mathematical functions in an interface. While some are easier than others you have consistent underpininnings like layers, channels, masks, and filters. If you can do layers, sharpening, and curves in GIMP, its about 10 minutes to do the same in PS and vice versa. Some of thge more advanced features like GIMP's script-fu aren't direct trabslations, but if youa re at that level of proficiency, you won't be worried about switching.
The biggest shortcomings of GIMP are lack of color management, although there is a very immature CMS plugin, and its limitation to an 8 bit editing space. If you shoot JPEGs and have a monitor which is "close enough" to being calibrated, then GIMP is extremely competitive. You can get RAW conveterter plugins for Gimp, but they will translate directly to an 8 bit space.
Oh, and yep... You can clone in GIMP. I'm not sure of what healing is, so I can't answer that question.
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12/28/2004 05:17:39 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by cghubbell:
I'm not sure of what healing is, so I can't answer that question. |
It's the "band aid" icon in PS 7 and CS. Works similar to cloning but takes information from both the sampled area and the area being healed to create the result. Good for removing blemishes and the like without creating an exact replica of another bunch of pixels.
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12/28/2004 05:28:08 PM · #12 |
| The GIMP sure does look to have come a long way, but even if I did not already own Photoshop CS I think I would still gravitate toward it. Not only because of it's feature rich environment, but maybe as much for the robust community surrounding it in terms of literature, magazines, community web sites, etc. The GIMP can't really compete there, at least not yet. Given time and increasing popularity that may change though. |
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12/28/2004 05:37:19 PM · #13 |
I've been thinking about getting GIMP for my other PC in the house, so my wife has something to use for her photos. I had not seen the 2.2 release yet, but now that I have, I think I'll be downloading it.
Thanks for the post.
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12/28/2004 05:37:36 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by richterrell:
The GIMP sure does look to have come a long way, but even if I did not already own Photoshop CS I think I would still gravitate toward it. Not only because of it's feature rich environment, but maybe as much for the robust community surrounding it in terms of literature, magazines, community web sites, etc. The GIMP can't really compete there, at least not yet. Given time and increasing popularity that may change though. |
Most of the instructions that come with PS techniques can easily be applied to Gimp. They are set up very similar. I have no problem with reading a PS tutorial and applying to gimp. |
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12/28/2004 05:43:28 PM · #15 |
I'm using The GIMP 2.2 myself, as I just got a new computer and couldn't afford to put PS or PSP on it right away, and, well, I might stick with it.
What was said originally kind of applies to me here.. I'm having difficulties getting color to look very bright or crisp on it, (evidenced by my wind entry), but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
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12/28/2004 05:54:01 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by riotspyne:
Originally posted by richterrell:
The GIMP sure does look to have come a long way, but even if I did not already own Photoshop CS I think I would still gravitate toward it. Not only because of it's feature rich environment, but maybe as much for the robust community surrounding it in terms of literature, magazines, community web sites, etc. The GIMP can't really compete there, at least not yet. Given time and increasing popularity that may change though. |
Most of the instructions that come with PS techniques can easily be applied to Gimp. They are set up very similar. I have no problem with reading a PS tutorial and applying to gimp. |
Chalk it up to me being lazy :-)
I would be interested in seeing an actual side-by-side features comparison of the two - that would make for interesting reading.
For example, does the GIMP support pressure-sensitive tablets? I don't really know. |
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12/28/2004 06:00:54 PM · #17 |
I'd love to put the GIMP on my Linux box.
Does The GIMP support a 16-bit colorspace in 2.2? I know in previous versions it has not, and this has been the key feature that kept me from switching.
How about RAW support?
-Terry
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12/28/2004 06:16:47 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
I'd love to put the GIMP on my Linux box.
Does The GIMP support a 16-bit colorspace in 2.2? I know in previous versions it has not, and this has been the key feature that kept me from switching.
How about RAW support?
-Terry |
I don't see either of those listed in the "What's New in 2.2" page on their site.
The following /. thread on the subject is very interesting, by the way.
//slashdot.org/articles/04/12/19/1829215.shtml
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12/28/2004 06:33:08 PM · #19 |
GIMP has been something of a saviour for me.... If I had the close to a grand (AUD) for photoshop I would be spending it on a better camera first. It seems to cover the basics really quite admirably...as for the more advanced stuff, well I'm not at an advanced editing level yet - which is, I guess the major problem with gimp - it's not like I can walk down to the local bookstore throw down 30 bucks and have a book that tells me most of what I need to know about photo editing with the gimp.
Still, it doesn't cost anything to download, so it's definately worth trying out, if you completely hate it, theres always the little delete button. |
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12/28/2004 06:48:58 PM · #20 |
thanks for the update
I used GIMP 1 but found it hard to use
then six months ago downloaded GIMP 2 and found it much better to use
have just installed GIMP 2.2 and after a quick look it looks even better, GIMP 2 is only 9 mths old so if it improves this fast the future looks good
as for tutorials google is your friend a search for "gimp tutorials" will find lots thats how I have learned to use it
plus they have added good help files to 2.2
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12/29/2004 12:52:08 AM · #21 |
I deleted my old version 2.0 and was going to download 2.2 but I cant figure it out. When i go to the mirrors I get this. does that mean I have to download all of them or what.
It also says this
The GIMP releases available from gimp.org and its mirrors contain the source code and have to be compiled in order to be installed on your system
Message edited by author 2004-12-29 00:52:23. |
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12/29/2004 01:31:10 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by riotspyne:
I deleted my old version 2.0 and was going to download 2.2 but I cant figure it out. When i go to the mirrors I get this. does that mean I have to download all of them or what.
It also says this
The GIMP releases available from gimp.org and its mirrors contain the source code and have to be compiled in order to be installed on your system
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Just go to downloads.com and pull down The GIMP
Don't forget to install the new GTK+ Runtime Environment before you install The GIMP.
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12/29/2004 01:44:43 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by cbeller:
Just go to downloads.com and pull down The GIMP
Don't forget to install the new GTK+ Runtime Environment before you install The GIMP. |
Worlds easier ...thanks |
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12/29/2004 01:55:25 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
How about RAW support?
-Terry |
I'm using Gimp 2.0 (on Linux and Windows) with the ufraw plugin - works perfectly for me :)
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01/05/2005 07:30:52 PM · #25 |
I'm still using PS 5.5, and downloaded GIMP2.2 several days ago.
GIMP's fun to play with, but I haven't found anything I like about it better than PS. It's especially weak for me, as it doesn't support CYMK.
I tried the 'auto' function in the color correction tools (such as levels), and was disappointed.
Still, it's free.
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