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12/27/2004 09:53:56 AM · #26
I agree, I do not think the âstagedâ photographs are within the spirits of the rules. No, the challenge description does not say it has to be natural but the last sentence does say, âThe face you submit may not be something that is intended to be a face (that is, not a person, animal, insect, toy or anything else that has a "face").â If you stage something to look like a face, then you intended it to look like a face.
12/27/2004 09:56:10 AM · #27
I didn`t enter this challenge..but thought I would post this shot to see how many people could find the "hidden face".
This was taken at "Brockville Park" one time home of my local soccer club (now a supermarket).
This image was taken during the warm up before the last ever game to be played at the stadium and was sent to me by a friend who reckoned that an "old supporter" had appeared to watch the proceedings.

12/27/2004 09:58:16 AM · #28
Originally posted by geewhy:

I didn`t enter this challenge..but thought I would post this shot to see how many people could find the "hidden face".
This was taken at "Brockville Park" one time home of my local soccer club (now a supermarket).
This image was taken during the warm up before the last ever game to be played at the stadium and was sent to me by a friend who reckoned that an "old supporter" had appeared to watch the proceedings.


Face is on the building wall 1/3 from left top.

Message edited by author 2004-12-27 10:01:26.
12/27/2004 10:00:02 AM · #29
It's in the wall, right? Saw it straight away, you should have entered it

Ops, SDW65 mentioned that already...

Message edited by author 2004-12-27 10:02:01.
12/27/2004 10:15:44 AM · #30
Some of them I could not find the face and some I found multiple faces. Some really nice photo's. I too think NOVA should have submitted the photo, it was pretty good.
I found some of the stage ones quite unique

Message edited by author 2004-12-27 10:19:17.
12/27/2004 11:21:47 AM · #31
Of course I missed the most obvious 'hidden' face:

12/27/2004 11:46:33 AM · #32
Obviously, my face is so well-hidden that people just aren't seeing it. It's there if they will only take more time to look... I guess I should have put in a closeup of it, rather than a scene.

p.s. Voting for me at the moment is painfully slow because I'm visiting my parents ... dial-up! I don't know if I'll be able to vote on all of them.

Message edited by author 2004-12-27 11:50:14.
12/27/2004 11:50:44 AM · #33


Here is a hidden face from july 2003. Had no time to go cypress tree root shooting this year.
12/27/2004 12:00:12 PM · #34
Looks like a sheep from hell!
12/27/2004 12:26:33 PM · #35
Here is mine I forgot to submit it....lol
12/27/2004 12:45:05 PM · #36
My philosophy is a little different for my outlook on challenges. DPC consists of Photographer Craftsmen/women and photographer artist. There is no clear line at times and most of us cross into each others camp. However, I appreciate both and I always respond in a positive light to a good traditional image as well as to an artistic effect. I always give more weight to the image. So if an image is a 7 and it falls a bit shy of the challenge then I give a 6.

Now, who can truly parse a challenges meaning and end up with the ultimate interpretation. There are many exceptions such as a challenge for rocks receiving glass entries. But even if the challenge were sand, then glass could be entered because glass is made from sand.

I leave it to the purist to make their fine distinctions. Many of their reasons make sense but often their reasoning jump the gun. While reading this thread i am amazed how quickly some images are dismissed.

Lets start with the staged. This means that you can not shoot a household object such as the familiar electrical socket or the typical wine opener or any other item that you must stage for lighting. I think the reasoning is wrong here. Perhaps a better description with better meaning is the contrived staged image. It is really the contrived that is the issue and not the staged. Because once you get your lights and background you are staging.

Second: the definition. It states that no real or human faces can be employed. This needs no explanation. Hidden faces does. This simply means to find something that resembles a face. Such subjects and objects can be found anywhere from the home to the outside. It does not say but do nothing creative with the presentation nor do anything that will accent your find. No, it merely states that the face you employ must not be a real face having eyes that are true, nose or mouth.

You can read it and make your own interpretation and no one will want to sway your opinion. It is after all, what you understand. I merely go past the rudiments and allow for humor and artistic expression. For example, if some one finds an object and throws or adds a mustache, all the more power to them.

Message edited by author 2004-12-27 12:46:48.
12/27/2004 12:53:22 PM · #37
Originally posted by SDW65:

I agree, I do not think the âstagedâ photographs are within the spirits of the rules. No, the challenge description does not say it has to be natural but the last sentence does say, âThe face you submit may not be something that is intended to be a face (that is, not a person, animal, insect, toy or anything else that has a "face").â If you stage something to look like a face, then you intended it to look like a face.


I don't agree here. Can't really talk about it w/o revealing what my entry was. But i totally disagree. A lot of those "staged" shots are just fine.

As opposed to the shot above (or below) of a face on the stadium screen, which is hidden in that it's hard to notice right away, but it wouldn't qualify for the challenge in my opinion because it is just a face, while the challenge called for a face that is not a face.

Obviously my entry is one of those "staged" shots, which is getting an unfair beating right now. Unfair because i think it matches the description perfectly. But judging by the comments and ratings, a lot of people disargee... Oh well, no big deal, it's just a photo and i still like it.

Message edited by author 2004-12-27 12:56:53.
12/27/2004 01:10:27 PM · #38
Originally posted by graphicfunk:

My philosophy is a little different for my outlook on challenges.

For example, if some one finds an object and throws or adds a mustache, all the more power to them.


First of all, my apologies to graphicfunk for whittlng his wonderful submission on this matter.

I could not agree more. His comments should considered by all when viewing these photos, for to do less would be a disservice to all involved.

I would really like to elaborate a lot more, but I find typing rather difficult today due to an injury I sustained yesteday.
12/27/2004 01:27:52 PM · #39
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by graphicfunk:

My philosophy is a little different for my outlook on challenges.

For example, if some one finds an object and throws or adds a mustache, all the more power to them.


First of all, my apologies to graphicfunk for whittlng his wonderful submission on this matter.

I could not agree more. His comments should considered by all when viewing these photos, for to do less would be a disservice to all involved.

I would really like to elaborate a lot more, but I find typing rather difficult today due to an injury I sustained yesteday.


Got a bad case of shutter-button-cramp? LOL! Just kidding. Hope you are ok. What happened?
12/27/2004 01:29:02 PM · #40
Probably update button syndrome.
12/27/2004 01:30:29 PM · #41
rofl
12/27/2004 01:34:27 PM · #42
Originally posted by scalvert:

Probably update button syndrome.


Good one! Yeah he could have UBS(Upate button Syndrome). Don`t forget AUBS (Aggravated Upate button Syndrome) and its worse form, IUBS (Irreversible Upate button Syndrome).
12/27/2004 01:35:31 PM · #43
Originally posted by scalvert:

Probably update button syndrome.

Perhaps drinking some UBS Port will take the edge off ...
12/27/2004 01:36:10 PM · #44
Originally posted by Beagleboy:

Originally posted by scalvert:

Probably update button syndrome.


Good one! Yeah he could have UBS(Upate button Syndrome). Don`t forget AUBS (Aggravated Upate button Syndrome) and its worse form, IUBS (Irreversible Upate button Syndrome).


LOL! Don't we all have a form of that?
12/27/2004 02:00:05 PM · #45
Originally posted by Beagleboy:

[quote=RayEthier] Got a bad case of shutter-button-cramp? LOL! Just kidding. Hope you are ok. What happened?


Naw, just getting old and not as agile. Slipped off of my neighbour's ice coverered stone steps, banged my head and slammed my hand into a rigid plastic landscaping support bracket.

Stone steps are ok,,,,,, Hand= 14 stiches,,,,Head = impressive abraision and a huge knot.... Neighbour = I Donated a bag of salt for his front steps.

On the good side,,,,,,I can see the faces in the "faces" challenge a lot clearer now.....lol
12/27/2004 02:01:45 PM · #46
Whew! Thank goodness it was just a fall and not Update Button Syndrome. Cuts and bumps will heal, but UBS only gets worse with time.
12/27/2004 02:02:33 PM · #47
Originally posted by scalvert:

Probably update button syndrome.


Oh no,,,,,,,not me,,,,,, I am new at this remember.. I really don't want to know what the score is,,,,,,(ok,,,,I lied)
12/27/2004 02:05:55 PM · #48
Originally posted by scalvert:

Whew! Thank goodness it was just a fall and not Update Button Syndrome. Cuts and bumps will heal, but UBS only gets worse with time.


You folks are too funny. I am so glad I joined this group. Wonderful advise on proper photography procedures, folks that care,,,,and enough wit and humour to satisfy anyone's need.

Thank you all
12/27/2004 02:15:07 PM · #49
I was thinking about enetering this, but what i saw was more of a figure not a face...anyonme else see the shape of an elephant from the outline of the creek???...
12/27/2004 02:20:20 PM · #50
I see it.
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