With or without islands? - DPChallenge Forums

12/25/2004 10:42:32 PM · #1

I noticed that some ppl have added this to their fav:

and some comments about the crop, so I decided to do another crop. The reason for the tight crop in the first place were some distracting islands in the BG, so I did two new versions, on with islands, on without.

With islands:

. . . . . and without islands:

All of these are at F/9.5 1/4000 sec because I forgot my ISO at 1600 from a northern lights shoot the previous day. Lens: 17-40 at 17 (A-DEP)
So what do you think? Which is the best one?

For references and homework, here is the original, uncropped and not rotated and 100% crop of top of lighthouse

Message edited by author 2004-12-26 17:14:27.

KiwiChris

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

12/26/2004 02:51:29 AM · #2

The wider crop without the Islands looks best to me... Although the Islands arn't actually that bad..

Did you edit this in seperate layers? The sky looks great, and it looks like you masked the building and warmed it up a bit?

Out of curiosity, are you able to post a small 100% crop from the light on the roof? Showing the highlight from the original...

I'd be interested to see how the 17-40 rendered that section. (Comparing lenses for a post-xmas present to myself, and the 17-40 is near the top of the list...)

Cheers, Chris H.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

12/26/2004 11:41:26 AM · #3

Petur,
I actually like the crop with the islands. I really think the islands add to the photo. Rather than being a distraction, IMO they help to define the envoronment of the building. I would leave them.

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doctornick

Apple iPhone 13 Pro

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/26/2004 11:51:30 AM · #4

I like the islands.

deapee

Kodak V803

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

12/26/2004 11:53:03 AM · #5

I neither like nor dislike the islands. I don't really feel them being there adds anything to the image, and I don't feel that them not being there takes anything away.

Your building speaks for itself.

Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH

12/26/2004 11:55:19 AM · #6

Oh man, you obviously can't please all the ppl all the time :)

I first cropped the islands out, because I was focusing on the lighthouse, then when I did the wider crop I kinda liked them in the BG. Only problem is that they lead to questions what more is there, and actually there is a whole lot of interesting things in that direction (to the left of frame). I might post some soon. One of the really nice things about PS is rotating images that were not 100% level to begin with (this was handheld) and I cloned a bit into the wedges that formed and thereby widened the crop a bit. Very nice.

Chris, what do you mean by roof? The roof where the light itself is, or above the windows on the ground floor?
This was just a quick PS-work, I don't think I did this in layers, at least not selective layers. Auto on colours, levels and contrast. Did then a bit of adjustment in Brightness/contrast (-20B/+5C) and some USM
The grainyness is not so visible in the downsized web version but is quite obvious in 100% view in PS

Olyuzi

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7

12/26/2004 12:03:57 PM · #7

Wonderful photo!
My vote goes towards not including the islands in the image. This has a surreal feel to it and I think the distraction of the bg islands takes away from that. There are many things to enjoy in this photo: color is beautiful, but the lighting and building angles really make this photo special. As a matter of fact, I had to keep doing double takes because it looked to me as if the picture wasn't perfectly rectangular. Well done.

awpollard

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

12/26/2004 12:07:46 PM · #8

For me the islands are not big enough to add any kind of benefit, if anything a tiny bit distracting. I like the wide shot without the islands.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

12/26/2004 12:19:46 PM · #9

Works better without the islands in this particular crop, though they are not a serious problem. Possibly, a horizontal shot showing more of that "good" stuff you mention to the left would give this another dimension. Either way, nice shot. The wider crop is vital.

(robt)

KiwiChris

12/26/2004 02:49:45 PM · #10

Originally posted by Gauti:

Chris, what do you mean by roof? The roof where the light itself is, or above the windows on the ground floor?

I mean the bit where there is sunlight shining off the main light itself.. Curious about the lens performance, not so much the image itself.. :-)

12/26/2004 05:08:29 PM · #11

Originally posted by ohmark:

I mean the bit where there is sunlight shining off the main light itself.. Curious about the lens performance, not so much the image itself.. :-)

Hi Chris
Here is the 100% crop of top of lighthouse (640x640 px):

Remember this is at ISO 1600 so there is a bit of grain and some added by resize for web (at 86%)

Message edited by author 2004-12-26 17:10:13.

elsapo

Canon EF 50mm f1.2L

12/26/2004 05:11:40 PM · #12

I like the crop with the islands...

Message edited by author 2004-12-26 17:39:02.

12/26/2004 06:18:59 PM · #13

Originally posted by bear_music:

...Possibly, a horizontal shot showing more of that "good" stuff you mention to the left would give this another dimension....

OK found a few pics of just that. The first is from, well, beyond the lighthouse. I don't think it's possible to get both lighthouse and beach in one photo. Must remember to try, next time I'm there.
More coming soon.....

#1: View from DyrhÃ³laey to east.

edit: on second thoughts, probably a little too much saturation. Well, must wait till tomorrow. There is a Guinnes with my name on it down at Ã�lstofan.....
Cheers/SkÃ¡l/SkÃ¥l/NazdravÃ/Nazdorovia/[Eger-seger-dre]

Message edited by author 2004-12-26 18:23:09.

KiwiChris

12/26/2004 06:37:22 PM · #14

Originally posted by Gauti:

Here is the 100% crop of top of lighthouse (640x640 px):

Remember this is at ISO 1600 so there is a bit of grain and some added by resize for web (at 86%)

Thanks for that Gauti...

I'm not worried about noise/grain, I already know that Canon CMOS sensors are black magic :-). CA and flare is what I'm curious about with that lens. It's around $1600 ($NZ) here, and some of the reviews I've found on the web don't seem particularly objective. Trying to make up my mind before getting in debt for a lens...

I can see from that crop that in the real world there isn't any of either..

Cheers, Chris H.