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12/23/2004 06:10:25 PM · #1 |
I have to say I am overwhelmed with the positive comments for my entry in the deja vu challenge ! I have had two users who feel it is a top 3 submission ! And this is just on my 5th submission on DPC ! It's my highest average and on previous challenges this would have me on average, in the top 10. However I think this deja vu is going to be a high scorer by the sounds of it and photos taken to replicate exactly a previous winner may score the highest votes. I went the other way with parody. We'll have to wait and see !
A big big thankyou in advance to all who left comments for me !!! Your encouragement has made me feel confident that I can mix it with the best of you !!
Merry Christmas All !!!!! :-) |
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12/28/2004 02:31:14 PM · #2 |
I have to agree! One of the main reasons I'm even submitting pictures is for the comments and feedback! I want to become a better photographer and the positive feedback is just as great as the constuctive criticism!
Keep up the comments people :) |
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12/28/2004 03:24:41 PM · #3 |
Your observations are correct. Even a simple , "Great" is enough to convey the feeling that we are on the right track. The same applies to, "Needs contrast" or wharever. Both have an impact.
Of course, the secret is to take both the positive and negative in good stride. Often times you will receive two comments repeating the same defect. Listen to these because therein is a lesson.
You will be amazed at your oversights once you place the image into the challenge. There will also be some comments which will disturb you because you feel that the approach is too rude and in some cases their observation all wet. Well, best to wait until you have enough comments to make a final judgment. And yes, we do have some members who lack tack and worst those that lack tack and are very bad observers. Not to worry because their comments will be there for all to see.
Yes, the comments are "king," and their need universal. Remember, that when you place a study, image or artwork that you will attract either praise or criticism or both.
Most important make it a point to return comments. Some favor only the winning shots while the more level headed distributes equally. I often comment on the strong porential winners, then the mid strenght images and then I make it a point to visit those images that really need attention. I try to do 20 percent.
The big lesson is that I learn more by commenting than by receiving. |
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12/28/2004 04:38:46 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
Your observations are correct. Even a simple , "Great" is enough to convey the feeling that we are on the right track. The same applies to, "Needs contrast" or wharever. Both have an impact.
Of course, the secret is to take both the positive and negative in good stride. Often times you will receive two comments repeating the same defect. Listen to these because therein is a lesson.
You will be amazed at your oversights once you place the image into the challenge. There will also be some comments which will disturb you because you feel that the approach is too rude and in some cases their observation all wet. Well, best to wait until you have enough comments to make a final judgment. And yes, we do have some members who lack tack and worst those that lack tack and are very bad observers. Not to worry because their comments will be there for all to see.
Yes, the comments are "king," and their need universal. Remember, that when you place a study, image or artwork that you will attract either praise or criticism or both.
Most important make it a point to return comments. Some favor only the winning shots while the more level headed distributes equally. I often comment on the strong porential winners, then the mid strenght images and then I make it a point to visit those images that really need attention. I try to do 20 percent.
The big lesson is that I learn more by commenting than by receiving. |
Graphicfunk, I appreciate your words and agree entirely with the points you make. Thankyou for your comment on my deja vu submission and hope to get many more from you in the future! :-) |
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12/29/2004 05:05:03 AM · #5 |
As a beginner, I desparately need comments in order to learn. As a human, I know that most everyone, from the best to the most inexperienced, wants comments. My question is are my comments appreciated by those who know so much more than I do? At this point, the kind of comments I'm capable of are "oooh, beautiful" or "too much Photoshop manipulation."
I feel a little ashamed of myself when I comment negatively on a photograph that's a thousand times better than what I could make. |
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12/30/2004 02:34:18 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by graphicfunk:
Yes, the comments are "king," and their need universal. Remember, that when you place a study, image or artwork that you will attract either praise or criticism or both.
Most important make it a point to return comments. Some favor only the winning shots while the more level headed distributes equally. I often comment on the strong porential winners, then the mid strenght images and then I make it a point to visit those images that really need attention. I try to do 20 percent.
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That goal of commenting on 20 percent of entries is a challenge in itself, Daniel. I did so in the HIDDEN FACES challenge of only 98 entries, but can't imagine trying to do so in one of the larger challenges of 500 plus. In any event, I will continue to comment. Thanks for the rest of the post from which the above quote is extracted, also. Your subtle comment on my OLD TECH entry (Grandma's Pager) had an impact on me, and I appreciate it. |
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12/30/2004 02:53:45 PM · #7 |
One of the best things that I have started doing is trying to PM the people that leave comments that are helpful to me. I figure if I can recognize the people that are commenting, that will just help them comment more in the future.
One thing I really like is when I recieve a nice PM for a comment I have left on an image.
Bud
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12/30/2004 03:15:16 PM · #8 |
Votes: 130
Views: 193
Avg Vote: 4.2000
Comments: 1
All this and I finally get 1 comment today. evidently at least 100 people felt my pic was worth a 4, but didn't see a need to tell me why. Real discouraging..even if my avg was a 9.9, it wouldn't help me improve or even know what I am doing right. Is it just that my photo is boring?
at a loss
SiSi
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12/30/2004 04:57:46 PM · #9 |
| I am curious what most people feel is an average photo score... is "average" a 4, 5, 6, 7, ????? Mathematically, the average between 1 and 10 is a 5.5000.... so it seems to me an "average" photo would receive a score of 5.5000 ..... Therefore, I am somewhat disappointed when my scores are 4.100, 4.500, etc.... Am I not interpreting the scoring properly?? By the way, I do appreciate all of the comments I have received so far, and none of my challenge entries have scored very good at all... |
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12/30/2004 06:19:07 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by HornOUBet:
Mathematically, the average between 1 and 10 is a 5.5000.... |
Even so, many people give a score of 5 for the average, ok shot. After all, 5.5 isn't an option. Just my take on it, but I would offer the opinion that from about 4.5 to 5.0 is "average". Anything from 5 to 6 is "pretty good", over 6 is "good", 7 is "very good", and 8-10 are degress of perfection. |
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12/30/2004 09:27:56 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by puzzled:
As a beginner, I desparately need comments in order to learn. As a human, I know that most everyone, from the best to the most inexperienced, wants comments. My question is are my comments appreciated by those who know so much more than I do? At this point, the kind of comments I'm capable of are "oooh, beautiful" or "too much Photoshop manipulation."
I feel a little ashamed of myself when I comment negatively on a photograph that's a thousand times better than what I could make. |
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Like all new skills in life, first we crawl and then slowly we rise and take a few tumbles before we begin to walk. After walking, running appears easy.
Stick to it and continue to make comments. Even one liners are good. Eventually you will begin to analyse an image quicker and with practice you will verbalise what you feel about the image. This practice begins to sharpen your senses, making your eye a bit more critical. The eye is then turn inward and you become your best critic. This simple exercise automatically begins to advance the quality of your work. |
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12/31/2004 07:24:08 AM · #12 |
I try to comment of all the pictures even if the person disagree's with my comments. I may not be able to score them all but the ones I do score I try to leave a brief comment and my score. I didn't entry "Hidden Faces" challenge but am trying to score and comment on them all.
You have rated 48 of 98 images (49%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 47 images (48%) in this challenge.
Hopefully my comments will help out some.
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12/31/2004 07:40:46 AM · #13 |
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12/31/2004 08:36:19 AM · #14 |
| I'm in the same boat with puzzled, I feel capable of only making similar comments e.g. great shot... and so am reluctant to comment, although I do feel I am learning gradually especially from the comments I have recieved, so i'm sure as time passes and my experience grows you will see more comments appearing. |
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