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12/20/2004 09:55:25 AM · #26 |
Looks like a new DPC ribbon category, Gold-Plated, Platinum, with inlaid precious jewels.
Seriously, I laid down a few 8s and 9s in my first run through. When I go back for further study and comments, I'm sure I'll give out a few 10s this time. Quite a strong field!
Originally posted by heida:
Well my score has gone up a bit now
Votes: 69
Views: 1693
Avg Vote: 19.6255
Comments: 69
Favorites: 69
Wish Lists: 69 |
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12/20/2004 10:56:01 AM · #27 |
| My score is 0.45 below the score of the original photograph... |
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12/20/2004 11:06:00 AM · #28 |
Votes: 59
Views: 105
Avg Vote: 6.3220
Comments: 3
Favorites: 1
But i'm already a winner cause it might be used as a Movie poster backround! |
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12/20/2004 11:16:09 AM · #29 |
Just a question on how folks are voting.... I got a comment on my photo's orientation, because it's not the same as the original. I'm not judging the images based on how faithfully they recreate the original- the idea is to tribute or parody, not copy, right? I just hope folks are taking that into account when they vote!
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12/20/2004 11:19:12 AM · #30 |
Your lucky to get a comment, did not get any yet, mmmmm maybe theres nothing to comment on, not interesting enough or nothing else i could do with the shot. dunno how to take it. ah well
still around the 5.9 mark, hope it makes the mid 6's |
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12/20/2004 11:26:13 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by Brookied:
Your lucky to get a comment, did not get any yet, mmmmm maybe theres nothing to comment on, not interesting enough or nothing else i could do with the shot. dunno how to take it. ah well
still around the 5.9 mark, hope it makes the mid 6's |
so far i have managed to chalk up 8 comments! woo! score is fairly respectable (and quite decent for me, even though i've noticed a few iffy areas in the shot that weren't noticeable on my home PC). what i think should be compulsory (provided they haven't moved to a mountain in Tibet or anything) is that the creator of the original image which has been re-imagined casts their critical eye and give some thoughts on the copy....
editted to add, AND put their score in the comment!
Message edited by author 2004-12-20 11:56:48. |
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12/20/2004 11:28:52 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by gaurawa:
My score is 0.45 below the score of the original photograph... |
mine is worse, 0.65 below.
But is still my highest score.
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12/20/2004 11:48:43 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by Gauti:
Originally posted by gaurawa:
My score is 0.45 below the score of the original photograph... |
mine is worse, 0.65 below.
But is still my highest score. |
worse still: .7597 below the winner. But it was obvious that mine wasn't as good, even tho I did try |
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12/20/2004 11:52:04 AM · #34 |
Looks like the game is up for me with a lowly
Votes: 65
Views: 120
Avg Vote: 6.6000
Comments: 1
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
c'mon - more 10's please ;-) |
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12/20/2004 11:52:33 AM · #35 |
.54 below the original.
edit: .51
Message edited by author 2004-12-20 11:54:01. |
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12/20/2004 11:56:00 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by redmoon:
...what i think should be compulsory (provided they haven't moved to a mountain in Tibet or anything) is that the creator of the original image which has been re-imagined casts their critical eye and give some thoughts on the copy.... |
Wow! That's really a great idea. It would be a chance for them to mentor us and help us improve as photographers. I'd greatly appreciate that! :) hint-hint |
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12/20/2004 11:57:42 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by kyebosh:
.54 below the original.
edit: .51 |
a whopping arsing 1.71 below the original... |
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12/20/2004 11:57:45 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
It would be quite a shame for any recreation to score higher than the original don't you think.
Kind of makes a mockery of the site and it's voters. |
Nobody seems to want to answer that one : )
I disagree. Unless you consider all ribbon winners to be absolutely perfect then surely they can be improved upon? And the parodies have the advantage of added humour value.
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12/20/2004 12:07:27 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by bod:
Originally posted by jonpink:
It would be quite a shame for any recreation to score higher than the original don't you think.
Kind of makes a mockery of the site and it's voters. |
Nobody seems to want to answer that one : )
I disagree. Unless you consider all ribbon winners to be absolutely perfect then surely they can be improved upon? And the parodies have the advantage of added humour value. |
I would have to agree with jonpink. I think if I am recreating something ( which I tried to do ), there is no creativity involved and it misses most of the wow factor. |
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12/20/2004 12:18:18 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by gaurawa:
I would have to agree with jonpink. I think if I am recreating something ( which I tried to do ), there is no creativity involved and it misses most of the wow factor. |
How about "wow, that's even better than the original"?
As for creativity, I guess that depends on your definition. If you really mean originality then there's little hope of seeing that in a challenge where you're asked to copy something.
I would imagine that recreating many shots - without the original props, or lights, or location, or subjects or in many cases any idea of how it was set up - would require a great deal of creative thinking.
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12/20/2004 12:20:12 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by bod:
I would imagine that recreating many shots - without the original props, or lights, or location, or subjects or in many cases any idea of how it was set up - would require a great deal of creative thinking. |
Not with the photos on here though.
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12/20/2004 12:22:44 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by bod:
Originally posted by jonpink:
It would be quite a shame for any recreation to score higher than the original don't you think.
Kind of makes a mockery of the site and it's voters. |
Nobody seems to want to answer that one : )
I disagree. Unless you consider all ribbon winners to be absolutely perfect then surely they can be improved upon? And the parodies have the advantage of added humour value. |
They can of course be improved, but I weigh a lot of my votes on how original or creative the idea is to me. To me the idea is of paramount importance over quality etc.
Thus, even a perfectly executed copy of xxx.jpeg is never going to be scored highly in my book.
I know that is the challenge, and so be it - but I think it would be a sham for them to rank higher, unless of course it's a parody.
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12/20/2004 12:25:47 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by bod:
How about "wow, that's even better than the original"?
As for creativity, I guess that depends on your definition. If you really mean originality then there's little hope of seeing that in a challenge where you're asked to copy something.
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Since its a Daja Vu, the wow factor depends upon the subject matter. May be if you were working on a portrait, then a recreation could be much better than the original, but for something like playing with a light / or using light effects on a normal/mundane subject, the wow factor is related to the originality of the photograph. |
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12/20/2004 12:28:58 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by gaurawa:
Originally posted by bod:
How about "wow, that's even better than the original"?
As for creativity, I guess that depends on your definition. If you really mean originality then there's little hope of seeing that in a challenge where you're asked to copy something.
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Since its a Daja Vu, the wow factor depends upon the subject matter. May be if you were working on a portrait, then a recreation could be much better than the original, but for something like playing with a light / or using light effects on a normal/mundane subject, the wow factor is related to the originality of the photograph. |
To add to that, ribbon winning shots are generally lit ok so nothing should be needed really.
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12/20/2004 12:29:51 PM · #45 |
My wow must have went. ;) I'm starting to drop. Now below 6. Now I'm guessing 30% percentile.
That's the trick on this one: everyone--guess your final percentile. |
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12/20/2004 12:32:32 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
I know that is the challenge, and so be it - but I think it would be a sham for them to rank higher, unless of course it's a parody. |
It's not fair to judge the scores of one challenge to another. There is an entirely different pool of participating members, different shooting conditions (e.g. time of year, availability, etc.), and perhaps fewer or more people voting/submitting. To say one image is better or more well-received because of the score it received is, to me, assuming too much. |
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12/20/2004 12:34:58 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by nshapiro:
My wow must have went. ;) I'm starting to drop. Now below 6. Now I'm guessing 30% percentile.
That's the trick on this one: everyone--guess your final percentile. |
8% (the top 8 that is)
Message edited by author 2004-12-20 12:35:26. |
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12/20/2004 12:35:01 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by bledford:
Originally posted by jonpink:
I know that is the challenge, and so be it - but I think it would be a sham for them to rank higher, unless of course it's a parody. |
It's not fair to judge the scores of one challenge to another. There is an entirely different pool of participating members, different shooting conditions (e.g. time of year, availability, etc.), and perhaps fewer or more people voting/submitting. To say one image is better or more well-received because of the score it received is, to me, assuming too much. |
No, I vote as I see fit which is the fairest way of voting. And in this challenge if i was to vote on an original V's a copy then I imagine most of the originals would score higher.
I never change my voting methods per challenge depending on subject, or how many people have entered or what time of year it is - that sounds even more unfair.
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12/20/2004 12:35:10 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
Originally posted by gaurawa:
Since its a Daja Vu, the wow factor depends upon the subject matter. May be if you were working on a portrait, then a recreation could be much better than the original, but for something like playing with a light / or using light effects on a normal/mundane subject, the wow factor is related to the originality of the photograph. |
To add to that, ribbon winning shots are generally lit ok so nothing should be needed really. |
I guess ... if you consider "ok" to be the all that's needed :P
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12/20/2004 12:37:39 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by bod:
Originally posted by jonpink:
Originally posted by gaurawa:
Since its a Daja Vu, the wow factor depends upon the subject matter. May be if you were working on a portrait, then a recreation could be much better than the original, but for something like playing with a light / or using light effects on a normal/mundane subject, the wow factor is related to the originality of the photograph. |
To add to that, ribbon winning shots are generally lit ok so nothing should be needed really. |
I guess ... if you consider "ok" to be the all that's needed :P |
But even if the lighting is great, the idea is non existent which as I said weighs heavily with my scoring.
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