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12/17/2004 04:10:41 PM · #1 |
$1600.00 nikon D70 kit
$250.00 nikon sb-600
And I just made my first cool 20 cents. It was worth it.
Does this mean I am proffesional?
Message edited by author 2004-12-17 16:10:57.
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12/17/2004 04:11:58 PM · #2 |
| If you can survive on 20 cents for a month, you are a professional :) |
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12/17/2004 04:26:43 PM · #3 |
You're classed as a professional when your photography earnings is something like 50% (probably the wrong amount but something similar) of your total income in a year. So technically I'm a professional but I sure dont feel like one.
But that doesnt mean you cant feel all warm and squishy inside for selling 20 cents! |
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12/17/2004 06:01:19 PM · #4 |
Well I may not be a pro, but I'm well on may way to making a return on my investment.
LoL
Travis
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12/17/2004 06:03:08 PM · #5 |
congrats!
I made my first dollar yesterday! a huge landmark for me :-)
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12/17/2004 06:05:49 PM · #6 |
| I made my first $50 a few weeks ago :-) Hoping for more this break! |
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12/17/2004 06:06:07 PM · #7 |
| Congratulations Travis and Nico Blue, combined you're a $1.20 ahead of me... |
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12/17/2004 06:13:08 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by moodville:
You're classed as a professional when your photography earnings is something like 50% (probably the wrong amount but something similar) of your total income in a year. So technically I'm a professional but I sure dont feel like one.
But that doesnt mean you cant feel all warm and squishy inside for selling 20 cents! |
Based on this if you gave up work now you would be a professional photographer! Just don't eat, drink or spend money. ;)
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12/17/2004 06:51:14 PM · #9 |
I would like to know who made up the 50% standard. When you play college basketball, if you take a $5.00 cab ride free, I'm pretty sure you violate amateur rules. Same thing if you're a track star and take an appearance fee, even if it is just one time. If Michelle Wie takes one red cent from a golf tournament, she's no longer an amateur.
This all being said, I think the 50% mark was made up by disgruntled pros who were upset at weekend warriors coming in and stealing some of the money - a way to say "you're not a pro because you don't depend on this for your livelihood."
Bah humbug.
(I know mood didn't make it up - and I'm not attacking her - but the whole premise behind it makes me feel like it's a joke).
M
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12/17/2004 07:02:25 PM · #10 |
| I'm not sure about the 50% but I do know it is a percentage. And some people may classify themselves as professional if they sell one print, but in photography competitions that have established differences between amateur and professional the % of your income coming from selling photography is what makes a person a professional and so ineligible for amateur categories. |
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12/17/2004 07:05:32 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by mavrik:
I would like to know who made up the 50% standard. When you play college basketball, if you take a $5.00 cab ride free, I'm pretty sure you violate amateur rules. Same thing if you're a track star and take an appearance fee, even if it is just one time. If Michelle Wie takes one red cent from a golf tournament, she's no longer an amateur.
This all being said, I think the 50% mark was made up by disgruntled pros who were upset at weekend warriors coming in and stealing some of the money - a way to say "you're not a pro because you don't depend on this for your livelihood."
Bah humbug.
(I know mood didn't make it up - and I'm not attacking her - but the whole premise behind it makes me feel like it's a joke).
M |
As a golfer Michele could take upto $500 and keep here amateur status. Something small like that.
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12/17/2004 08:22:35 PM · #12 |
An amateur is someone who still makes mistakes.
A pro is someone who has made them all.
Message edited by author 2004-12-17 20:23:20.
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12/17/2004 08:38:18 PM · #13 |
My favourite words along those lines are: an amateur practices until he can get something right; a professional practices until he can't get something wrong.
Likewise, re photography: amateur photographers talk about cameras, professional photographers talk about photographs.
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12/19/2004 04:58:00 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
Originally posted by mavrik:
I would like to know who made up the 50% standard. When you play college basketball, if you take a $5.00 cab ride free, I'm pretty sure you violate amateur rules. Same thing if you're a track star and take an appearance fee, even if it is just one time. If Michelle Wie takes one red cent from a golf tournament, she's no longer an amateur.
This all being said, I think the 50% mark was made up by disgruntled pros who were upset at weekend warriors coming in and stealing some of the money - a way to say "you're not a pro because you don't depend on this for your livelihood."
Bah humbug.
(I know mood didn't make it up - and I'm not attacking her - but the whole premise behind it makes me feel like it's a joke).
M |
As a golfer Michele could take upto $500 and keep here amateur status. Something small like that. |
Actually, she could accept a prize WORTH $500, but rule b) in the same section states that she may not accept money as a prize AT ALL.
:)
M
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12/19/2004 06:10:27 PM · #15 |
so, if i have no income - 20 cents makes me a pro, eh?
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12/19/2004 06:15:40 PM · #16 |
| I just made an extra 3 cents from a referred photograher download. I wonder who it is (and thanks!) It brings my grand total to $5.03 |
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12/20/2004 04:31:22 AM · #17 |
Let me see, I can work with this..
I'm about $4800 (NZD) down since I got the 20D, and I've sold about $150 worth of prints, at cost.
Oh, and I did some for free..
Oh, hang on.
Damn.
:-)
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