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Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

12/16/2004 10:14:28 AM · #1

Ok here i come again. What are the best setting srgb or adobe rgb?
In my cam i have the quality of the file on jpeg/raw, when i pass the photos to the computer i cannot find the raw files only the jpeg how to i find them?
sorry again.

RHoldenSr

Canon EOS-5D

12/16/2004 10:18:23 AM · #2

Adobe in the camera, Adobe has a larger color profile. The SRGB profile is smaller and is mostly for web presentation and etc.

12/16/2004 10:23:08 AM · #3

and why doesn't the raw file appear?

12/16/2004 10:29:23 AM · #4

Originally posted by Discraft:

and why doesn't the raw file appear?

RAW files can only be viewed with a RAW file viewer, in my case, with the 10D, that is the Canon RAW file viewer since I only have Photoshop 7 which does not have a RAW file converter. I believe PS CS either comes with a RAW file converter, or it can be purchased to plug in.

What are you using to try to view the RAW files?

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

12/16/2004 10:31:36 AM · #5

I have that software for the canon which came with the camera. And i have the raw/jpeg setting on the camera, but the raw files aren't appearing on the compact flash. thats my question!

coolhar

12/16/2004 10:44:29 AM · #6

Discraft, you should have received two programs, EOS Viewer Utility and the newer, more powerful Digital Photo Professional, with your 20D that will allow you to view RAW files; and also to save them in other formats, such as jpg & tiff. I believe the are updates for both programs available at the Canon site.

Do the RAW files show up when you copy the contents of your CF card to your hard drive? They will have .CR2 as the file name extension.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

12/16/2004 10:44:34 AM · #7

Originally posted by Discraft:

I have that software for the canon which came with the camera. And i have the raw/jpeg setting on the camera, but the raw files aren't appearing on the compact flash. thats my question!

Are you shooting in Basic Mode or Manual(Creative) Mode? RAW is not available as an option in Basic (Automatic) mode on the 10D, and I would think it would be the same on the 20D.

edited to add the word "Creative"

Message edited by author 2004-12-16 10:48:09.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

12/16/2004 10:45:43 AM · #8

Hmmm. Are you using a card reader? If so, look at the card using Windows Explorer (assuming you're on PC running Windows). The RAW files should have a file name like "IMG_1234.CR2".
If they are being written, you should be able to see them using your operating system. If they are not, then there is a problem with the camera settings.
BTW, with RAW files there is no such thing as using a color space (or white balance) since you are dealing with the data directly from the sensor. You apply all your chosen settings upon conversion to JPEG or TIFF.

TLL061

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/16/2004 10:47:20 AM · #9

Originally posted by lhall:

Originally posted by Discraft:
and why doesn't the raw file appear?

RAW files can only be viewed with a RAW file viewer, in my case, with the 10D, that is the Canon RAW file viewer since I only have Photoshop 7 which does not have a RAW file converter. I believe PS CS either comes with a RAW file converter, or it can be purchased to plug in.
What are you using to try to view the RAW files?

ps cs come with the raw converter

12/16/2004 10:48:02 AM · #10

No those files don't appear, If i take the photo only in raw nothing appears on the camera folder. I'm using the usb cable. don't tell me the camera is broken, please... i'm just loving it.

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

12/16/2004 10:53:46 AM · #11

Originally posted by Discraft:

No those files don't appear, If i take the photo only in raw nothing appears on the camera folder. I'm using the usb cable. don't tell me the camera is broken, please... i'm just loving it.

Are you certain that you took those images in the Creative Mode? If you set your file size to RAW, but then switch back to Basic (Automatic) Mode for shooting your photos, the images recorded will be JPEG ONLY.

coolhar

12/16/2004 10:56:33 AM · #12

Originally posted by Discraft:

No those files don't appear, If i take the photo only in raw nothing appears on the camera folder. I'm using the usb cable. don't tell me the camera is broken, please... i'm just loving it.

More likely a settings issue than a broken cam. The supplied USB cable is fine, but maybe a little slower than a card reader. What mode is youe 20D set in when you are trying to shoot RAW? Try using the P mode.

12/16/2004 10:56:44 AM · #13

I'm pretty sure i used them in manual modes.

12/16/2004 10:57:58 AM · #14

ok problem is solved the appeared, i restared my computer and boom there they where. thanks everyone. i might have more questions later!! :) the bugger boy! :) thanks everyone.

12/16/2004 10:59:05 AM · #15

Originally posted by Discraft:

I'm pretty sure i used them in manual modes.

I mention this because, when I got my first digital camera, I set the file size to RAW, but then thought that the camera wasn't taking in RAW, only to figure out that, without thinking about it much, I switched to Automatic mode, and of course, it only took JPEGS.

12/16/2004 11:00:21 AM · #16

Originally posted by Discraft:

ok problem is solved the appeared, i restared my computer and boom there they where. thanks everyone. i might have more questions later!! :) the bugger boy! :) thanks everyone.

That's GREAT! At least it isn't a camera problem. Whew, what a relief!

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

12/16/2004 11:07:54 AM · #17

Originally posted by lhall:

Originally posted by Discraft:
ok problem is solved the appeared, i restared my computer and boom there they where. thanks everyone. i might have more questions later!! :) the bugger boy! :) thanks everyone.

That's GREAT! At least it isn't a camera problem. Whew, what a relief!

You just said it!! what a relief really and thanks for the concern.
Next challenge is mine!! :)
Raw is really a great file. you can really control everything.
Thanks everyone.

PeterC

Canon EOS-7D

12/16/2004 11:09:47 AM · #18

This thread is why DPC is great a fast accurate response to a cry for help, I'm pleased to ignore all the repetative threads on scoring and title's etc just to see the support fellow photographer's are willing to give eachover... :-)

Canon RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1 L IS USM

12/16/2004 11:12:52 AM · #19

Originally posted by PeterC:

I have to agree with you at 100%. It was really fast the way people started to show up on the thread to help.
I no i'll be a bugger for a while but then i can help someone with what i've learned with everyone here. Thanks again everyone.

cloudsme

Canon EOS R5

12/16/2004 11:35:27 AM · #20

I understand the theoretical advantages of adobe over srgb. However, in practice, I have gotton much brighter prints using srgb. Much better skin tones also. I don't know why, but my frustration level is much less using srgb. Anyone else have similar experience?

12/16/2004 11:42:11 AM · #21

Ok if i pass the photos on the usb shouldn't i be seeing the raw files?

12/16/2004 11:44:15 AM · #22

Originally posted by Discraft:

Ok if i pass the photos on the usb shouldn't i be seeing the raw files?

Where are you looking at them? In Photoshop file browser or in Windows Explorer?

12/16/2004 11:44:57 AM · #23

i suppose it's in explorer.

12/16/2004 11:48:11 AM · #24

Originally posted by Discraft:

i suppose it's in explorer.

Yes, if you are looking at your files in Windows Explorer, then you should see a list of files like this: CRW_1297.CRW.

If you are using Photoshop (7 or below), or a similar photo program and looking for them in the program's file browser you will not see any files other than JPEGs.

If you navigate to the photos using the Canon RAW file viewer, can you see them there???

Message edited by author 2004-12-16 11:50:05.