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12/15/2004 05:03:49 PM · #26
Originally posted by Blackdog:

... Its a discussion that will go on as long as DPC exists.

I hope so!
12/15/2004 05:05:51 PM · #27
Americans love taking snapshots of their flag, don't they? :) Don't kill me now. I am just chillin'.
12/15/2004 05:25:45 PM · #28
Originally posted by SDW65:

What made me get upset about this is after this thread started my picture began to get some low votes. Thatâs ok, I did NOT expect it to be a ribbon winner or even come close but I didnât expect â1â votes to rolling in. Maybe the â1â vote(s) are troll voters OR maybe they were obscured by threads such as the one linked above. Think about itâ¦.


...OR maybe the 1's are a placeholder for a more thorough evaluation of the flags as a subset, and subject to change.
12/15/2004 07:13:51 PM · #29
How about a "flags" challenge? :D
12/15/2004 08:14:05 PM · #30
I had a flag photo in the Lucky 7 challenge. I rcvd comments about flag photos and how they were not favorably looked on. I do not go along with the mis-guided mentality that a photo of our flag is bad. If someone from another country posts a picture of there national flag, then respect it and fairly vote on it or forget it. A flag photo taken in WWII won a Pulitzer Prize, the flag raising on Iwo Jima. Not bad for a flag photo.
12/15/2004 08:23:11 PM · #31
Originally posted by eaglebeck:

I had a flag photo in the Lucky 7 challenge. I rcvd comments about flag photos and how they were not favorably looked on. I do not go along with the mis-guided mentality that a photo of our flag is bad. If someone from another country posts a picture of there national flag, then respect it and fairly vote on it or forget it. A flag photo taken in WWII won a Pulitzer Prize, the flag raising on Iwo Jima. Not bad for a flag photo.


If you think about it I bet it was not the "flag" that made that a memorable photo but the moment captured.
12/15/2004 09:01:09 PM · #32
ibsmithana
do you think 5 Marines just standing on top of Mt Surabashi would have made the memorable moment without the flag being there.
12/15/2004 09:10:15 PM · #33
eaglebeck.

Name me the pictures of this caliber in the entries.

Case closed.
12/15/2004 09:14:02 PM · #34
Originally posted by proxima centauri:

eaglebeck.

Name me the pictures of this caliber in the entries.

Case closed.

you cant talk about images being voted on.

case closed.

Message edited by author 2004-12-15 21:14:30.
12/15/2004 09:37:57 PM · #35
Wind in itself is as elusive as the challenge described, So all of us fell short by capturing only the effects of the wind on other objects. But I'm satisfied with my attempt in capturing what was described as the challenge!
12/15/2004 09:58:25 PM · #36
Originally posted by eaglebeck:

ibsmithana
do you think 5 Marines just standing on top of Mt Surabashi would have made the memorable moment without the flag being there.

How much impact would it have if you cropped out the Marines and just had a picture of a leaning flagpole?
12/15/2004 10:13:37 PM · #37
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by eaglebeck:

ibsmithana
do you think 5 Marines just standing on top of Mt Surabashi would have made the memorable moment without the flag being there.

How much impact would it have if you cropped out the Marines and just had a picture of a leaning flagpole?


Very true. But the Marines AND the Flagpole made one of the famous photos ever. One without the other just would never have the same impact.

12/15/2004 10:16:34 PM · #38
Originally posted by Riggs:

... the Marines AND the Flagpole made one of the famous photos ever. One without the other just would never have the same impact.

Absolutely -- that's what I was trying to emphasize!
12/15/2004 10:52:37 PM · #39
The only flag I will ever put on this site again is a white flag.
12/15/2004 11:23:39 PM · #40
Originally posted by Gauti:

what if I had entered the Nazi flag? Or a swastica blowing in the wind. C'mon man, some symbols are just so saturated with bad wibes. NOTE: I'm implying that the US flag has anything in common with ze third reich.

There are a few symbols/subjects that seem to come up in just about every challenge, including:
Cat
Dogs
(american) flags
I'm dead tired of that unholy trinity, and am on the verge of voting them all down to stop ppl posting 'em.
yes, and smiling cute kids. enough please :)

These are the subjects that are very dear to their owners/parents/can-openers/etc but are VERY difficult to justice in a photo so that all get the mood and wibe

Cheers

I understand that some things show up way to often, time after time, but that is no reason to give the a one. As in a jury if you cannot judge without being bias then you should relieve yourself from that duty. In other words instead of taking the chance of loosing your votes because of a lot of 1âs and hurting the photographer because of you predetermined vote, skip that picture, donât vote on it and go to the next one. If you still feel you need to make a point â then comment.

Scott.
12/15/2004 11:45:39 PM · #41
Oh btw sorry for not keeping up with this post I started, my internet has been intermittently going down for a couple of days and today it decided to take the afternoon off.

I have read every ones post and canât help but see a dislike about the American flag. I for one would not voted down anyoneâs country flag, I look at the art/picture. However I will not sell out my country for a vote so I guess I will have to take the hits because:
1. I am proud to be an American
2. Each star stands for each state that makes up the United States and I respect every state.
3. Each strip represents the original 13 colonies that was the foundation of the USA and I respect that.
4. And finally I will not [REPEAT] will not purposely avoid taking a picture of the American flag because people may vote it down. There is a lot of blood and freedom behind the red, white, and blue.

I feel that 99.9% of the people that vote down the American flag is doing so because they are tired of seeing flags. If thatâs the case just skip and vote on the next picture. For the one or two that votes it down because it is the American flag and you donât like America or what she stands for, why are participating in a site that is founded in America?
12/15/2004 11:47:17 PM · #42
My 2 cents:

< Steps up on soap box. >
Posting a wind challenge and expecting people not to enter Flags would be like posting a water challenge and expecting people not to enter cups.

While a cup is not the only way to present water, it would be one of the most used means. It doesn't matter what size the cup is, what color it is, what political connection it may represent. The point is . . . how is it showing you the WATER!!!!!!

Can we please just judge all the photos in this challenge by how well they display THE WIND! Which, by the way, is the subject of the challenge.

12/16/2004 12:08:31 AM · #43
Originally posted by SDW65:


I feel that 99.9% of the people that vote down the American flag is doing so because they are tired of seeing flags. If that?s the case just skip and vote on the next picture. For the one or two that votes it down because it is the American flag and you don?t like America or what she stands for, why are participating in a site that is founded in America?


I said the case was closed in my mind, but I can't help but reply to this (itchy itchy...)

1- I am not american
2- I think people vote down mainly ANY flag, not just american, although the ratio of USA vs. Non-USA flags is at the USA's advantage.
3- I didn't vote flags "down" although they didn't score high in my "originality" section of my vote chart
4- I find your last comment offensive. Should half the country leave the USA since they didn't vote republican? Why should people live if you don't agree with them? Do you think you know the "truth"?

Geez.
12/16/2004 12:11:41 AM · #44
I think we have some anti-anti-flag backlash. My entry, fundamentally decent, with all its comments basically complimentary, has gone from almost 5.9 to just over 5.6 in the last few hours. And, of course, it DOESN'T have a flag. Coincidence????? :)
12/16/2004 12:21:18 AM · #45
Originally posted by proxima centauri:

Originally posted by SDW65:


I feel that 99.9% of the people that vote down the American flag is doing so because they are tired of seeing flags. If that?s the case just skip and vote on the next picture. For the one or two that votes it down because it is the American flag and you don?t like America or what she stands for, why are participating in a site that is founded in America?


I said the case was closed in my mind, but I can't help but reply to this (itchy itchy...

1- I am not american
2- I think people vote down mainly ANY flag, not just american, although the ratio of USA vs. Non-USA flags is at the USA's advantage.
3- I didn't vote flags "down" although they didn't score high in my "originality" section of my vote chart
4- I find your last comment offensive. Should half the country leave the USA since they didn't vote republican? Why should people live if you don't agree with them? Do you think you know the "truth"?

Geez.


1.I donât think you see my point. I did NOT put everyone in that pool. What I said was 99.9% of that vote it down are doing so because they are tired of seeing flags. I said they might be one or two with other intentions.

2.I in no way asked anyone to leave.

3.No I donât proclaim to no the truth. Different people have different views.
12/16/2004 12:25:13 AM · #46
Originally posted by Riggs:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by eaglebeck:

ibsmithana
do you think 5 Marines just standing on top of Mt Surabashi would have made the memorable moment without the flag being there.

How much impact would it have if you cropped out the Marines and just had a picture of a leaning flagpole?


Very true. But the Marines AND the Flagpole made one of the famous photos ever. One without the other just would never have the same impact.


Exactly. If you look at this challenge all the flag photos stand alone. They do not represent a memorable or historic moment. The event you reference was historical in nature do to its world wide significance during a world wide war. I donât think you can compare the two by any stretch of the imagination. Now with that said, there are a few flag photos in this challenge that are technically excellent and will score well. They will, however, suffer some from originality deductions. The fact is that every challenge places us in competition with the other photos entered in that particular challenge. So much flag competition here will likely make some of them suffer. It is not a patriotic thing or a US thing. Hell, Iâm a US citizen and I was the first to post on this issue.
12/16/2004 12:25:37 AM · #47
And for the record this is the last time I will post on the flag thing. Everyone do what they want, vote how they want; after all it is your right. All I have asked from the first post is give every picture a look and see if it merits a score other than a 1 just because itâs a flag. If have offended anyone, Iâm sorry. I will gracefully stop posting about this subject and let the voteâs fall where they may.

Message edited by author 2004-12-16 00:30:44.
12/16/2004 12:29:07 AM · #48
I noticed at least two past ribbon winners contained flags! I think you should vote solely on how well the photo meets the challenge regardless of subject matter.
12/16/2004 04:35:28 AM · #49
Originally posted by tmilob:

I noticed at least two past ribbon winners contained flags! I think you should vote solely on how well the photo meets the challenge regardless of subject matter.


I would politely disagree with this comment. It is clear that there are any number of subjects that are unique and creative and that the subject matter can greatly enhance the quality of the photo. It is of great value to find interesting subjects. I have recently changed my thinking. I now try to think something like this: "Would I pay money to hang this on my wall?" To me, that is a simple way to define how good a photo is.
12/16/2004 09:20:17 AM · #50
Funny thought that in the transparency challenge the flag got the blue ribbon
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