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 12/15/2004 12:45:51 PM · #1
So with this fancy new DSLR, it has all these custom parameters I can set. Thus far, I have stuck with parameter 2 (the least processed parameter). I was wondering if everyone used the "no changes" parameter, or if you all used more punchy settings? Also, from anyone who has shot extensively with film, is it possible to set up the parameters in a certain way to achieve results similar to certain film types (provia, velvia, etc.)? How well does that work out?
 12/15/2004 12:54:56 PM · #2
You can certainly use camera settings to bump up saturation, sharpness, etc... To my knowlege there are no cameras that have an explicitly marked "Velvia" setting though.

I generally much prefer to let the camera take the least processed image, (preferably RAW mode), and adjust in the post-processing phase. This gives you much more control over the final outcome.
12/15/2004 12:56:52 PM · #3
Shoot RAW and do whatever you like to the photo in Photoshop to achieve whatever result you want.
 12/15/2004 01:43:37 PM · #4
I agree with the others - do your PP and film 'look' in PS. keep the camera's involvement to a minimum.
 12/15/2004 04:13:52 PM · #5
I agree about keeping the camera out of your image processing and doing it later.

There are PS actions that you can get that will emulate different photographic films. I THINK you might find some at Fred Miranda, but I don't know for sure.
 12/15/2004 04:38:45 PM · #6
The new Fuji S3 is supposed to have 'film equivalent' settings in camera. The question 'and...?' springs to mind.

E
 12/15/2004 04:42:25 PM · #7
Originally posted by doctornick:
Shoot RAW and do whatever you like to the photo in Photoshop to achieve whatever result you want.


Hey Nick, you shoot everything raw?

12/16/2004 04:01:15 PM · #8
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
Originally posted by doctornick:
Shoot RAW and do whatever you like to the photo in Photoshop to achieve whatever result you want.


Hey Nick, you shoot everything raw?


I know I do.
 12/17/2004 08:55:19 AM · #9
Originally posted by strags:
You can certainly use camera settings to bump up saturation, sharpness, etc... To my knowlege there are no cameras that have an explicitly marked "Velvia" setting though.



actually the new Fuji S3 pro has "film modes" like that. it's of course just a bunch of pre-sets grouped together.

you can also load some custom curves that are set for film-like properties, like velvia
 12/17/2004 09:04:06 AM · #10
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
Originally posted by doctornick:
Shoot RAW and do whatever you like to the photo in Photoshop to achieve whatever result you want.


Hey Nick, you shoot everything raw?


Everything, haven't shot JPG's in more than a year.
 12/17/2004 09:14:15 AM · #11
Originally posted by doctornick:
Everything, haven't shot JPG's in more than a year.

FWIW, neither have I. I switched to shooting exclusively in raw a couple months after I got my 10D and have never looked back since.
 12/17/2004 10:26:00 AM · #12
Originally posted by EddyG:
Originally posted by doctornick:
Everything, haven't shot JPG's in more than a year.

FWIW, neither have I. I switched to shooting exclusively in raw a couple months after I got my 10D and have never looked back since.


same here. i went to raw shortly after picking up my d70, i don't think i've shot a single jpg since may
 12/17/2004 10:32:31 AM · #13
As I'll be getting a D70 in the near future I was thinking about this issue. I do see the advantages of shooting RAW but am concerned about the practicality (storage) issues. Looking back over the previous months since diving into photography I've averaged well over 1000 photos per month.

If I go RAW then I'm going to have to make investements in CF cards, big HDD and a DVD writer. For this money I could be looking at a new lens.

Is RAW worth it (for everyday shooting)?

Darren
 12/17/2004 10:34:45 AM · #14
darren,
it's really up to you. i have 2 512 cards, and they each hold between 70 and 90 shots, depending on the shooting. i find that the two cards are usually enough for me for a day of shooting. once they're on my pc i process the ones i intend to make prints of or stock or whatever, then batch convert the rest to jpg's, and i archive the RAW's onto CD or DVD.
for some people, the control over the "development" of your raw image is very worth it, for some it's not.
for me, i dont' think my d70 will shoot a jpg again in my hands :)
 12/17/2004 10:45:41 AM · #15
raw, raw, raw
 12/17/2004 10:51:43 AM · #16
Originally posted by garlic:
raw, raw, raw

was that raw garlic?
 12/17/2004 11:33:20 AM · #17
As many has suggested post processing to get a film like color, does anybody know of some good filters or actions to do this? I am not suggesting that digital should have to mimic film, but sometimes I want a specific look and velvia or kodacolor like is the easiest way to describe.
 12/17/2004 12:35:44 PM · #18
I quite like this Velvia Action
 12/17/2004 12:41:36 PM · #19
Originally posted by Gauti:
Originally posted by garlic:
raw, raw, raw

was that raw garlic?


12/17/2004 12:49:05 PM · #20
The only time I shoot .jpg anymore is when I'm shooting a very large volume of sports pictures which will go straight to web. Cross country races, for example. It's sooooo much better to have a RAW file.
 12/17/2004 02:32:53 PM · #21
Originally posted by jimmythefish:
The only time I shoot .jpg anymore is when I'm shooting a very large volume of sports pictures which will go straight to web. Cross country races, for example. It's sooooo much better to have a RAW file.


I used to do the same thing for situations where I had a high volume of shots and didn't want to post process each. I was at a photojournalistic style wedding workshop a couple of weeks ago and they outlined a RAW workflow that could be used even with high volumes of photos.

1. Shoot RAW (suppose that is obvious)
2. Upload and use photo mechanic to sort images. This is the fastest RAW browser that I have ever used.
3. Use Canon DPP to process the RAW images into jpgs. DPP is a little slow, but you can develop a receipe for one shot and then apply it to a whole collection in batch mode.
 12/19/2004 07:48:17 AM · #22
Originally posted by Gauti:
Originally posted by garlic:
raw, raw, raw

was that raw garlic?

You´ve got it right
 12/19/2004 08:53:15 AM · #23
i can also suggest virtual photographer by optik verve labs
 12/19/2004 09:33:43 AM · #24
the downside to raw is the larger size on your card while shooting, the plus side is you'll retain all the information of the shot... PLUS raw files compress relly good in a zip file, very similar to a bitmap compressed for example you can compress a 8 meg raw file and get it down to near 2 megs when compressed

[ edit ]PS even better than compressing in zip format is rar format a great rar compressing tool is winrar //www.rarlab.com/download.htm [ /edit ]

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